@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:
I hate how it’s not a true tournament and we could miss out from the title game by only winning both games by double digits lol
I don’t care about the championship here, I want KU to play a good team because Notre Dame and Syracuse are unlikely to make the NCAA Tournament. I’d much rather see KU play Michigan, Gonzaga, or Auburn to close it out and get another game against a really good team to help Flory and Tiller play without fouling.
@approxinfinity Tre White was someone KU recruited out of high school and I believe committed to KU at one point before going his odyssey. With Council, KU was initially looking at a different player at St. Bonnie’s, but ended up loving Council more.
@rockchalkjayhawk I was at the Duke game last year, it felt like a tournament atmosphere inside the arena. I also went to a session of the Player’s Era last year because ticket prices were relatively cheap.
I had a chance to get presale tickets this year because of going to the Duke game last year and didn’t. Last year I flew out on Sunday and flew home on Wednesday and was able to get heavily discounted room with my Caesar’s Rewards point and only had to lay the resort fees.
Because of the schedule this year, I would’ve had to fly out on Sunday and fly home Friday this year to make all 3 games because of not knowing when game 3 would take place. I don’t think a lot of people want to spend their Thanksgiving in Vegas. I didn’t have the points to get a comped room so I would’ve had to pay for 5 nights this year. If you haven’t been to Vegas recently, everything on the Strip has become extremely expensive. It would’ve cost me about triple what I spent last year to go and with Notre Dame and Syracuse being underwhelming opponents, I couldn’t justify it this year.
Can we run the ball on Friday? Do that and KU will jave a chance considering KSU just ran for almost 500 yards on Utah today.
Utah should also be extremely motivated after their close call today because they are the second team out of the CFP behind BYU right now.
Melvin had some LaGerald Vick looking plays in him last night. The surprise dunk on a semi fastbreak was the play that I thought of that comparison.
Council is Tyshawn before the second half of 2012. He can be the best player on tge court for both teams at the same time.
There were some positives tonight. Flory and Tiller did a really nice job on Boozer making him work tonight. 18 points in 17 shot attempts is good defense.
Without Peterson, this team does struggle to make shots which was a concern heading into this season. There’s been a lot of good looks that haven’t fallen so hopefully they have a game at some point where the shots fall and build up tge confidence.
I still think this group has Elite 8/Final 4 potential this season, but getting Peterson back healthy is a big part of that along with Tiller becoming more consistent with his shots as well.
@kjayhawks said in Duke Game:
What are the odds that DP doesn’t play another game for Kansas? Hes got his NIL cash now and can just hang until the draft in theory
Zero percent chance he willingly sits out until the draft. This is one of the strongest draft classes in recent history and plenty of players that would leapfrog Peterson if he sat out. Dybansta, Boozer, Koa Peat, Nate Ament, Caleb Wilson, and Mikel Brown would all likely jump Peterson in the draft costing him millions of dollars.
Current NBA players, scouts and execs have compared his game and work ethic to Kobe. Kobe was not a player who load managed, he wanted to be on the floor no matter what. That was a factor in him tearing his achilles because he came back too early from a calf strain.
Peterson would play if the decision was left to him because he is a competitor. He’s being held out by Self and the training staff to protect him from himself in the long term because as much as we all love KU, playing for a specific college isn’t the end goal or dream of 99% of basketball players, it’s to play professionally in the NBA.
If DP was protecting himself for the draft, he would not miss the Duke game. That game is too big and features one of the other players in contention for the top pick in 2026 and Peterson wouldn’t willingly miss that game and match up that could help cement himself as the top pick in 2026.
Vaughn, currently at 50 could coach for 15 or so years if he took over in the next couple of years. He also has strong NBA connections that would be a selling point for high level recruits and transfers with NBA potential.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Princeton:
News here at 10 said no DP tues. Is Coach calling the shots?
If he’s missing the Duke game, there’s a legit issue with his hamstring going on. If it was just Self and DP doing load management, DP wouldn’t skip playing against fellow #1 pick contender Cam Boozer. That would be a showcase game for him not to skip.
@BeddieKU23 said in Princeton:
Council and Elmarko are complete non shooters. Hard to believe
They’re better drivers than shooters. Elmarko still can’t play off ball which was his issue as a freshman. He’s looked a bit better when he’s running the second unit with the ball in his hands. Elmarko needs to watch film on Stephen Curry to see how to play without the ball in his hands. Obviously he’ll never be the shooter Curry is, but Curry is the greatest off ball player in NBA history and there’s a lot to learn from studying him.
With Council, it appears he’s still adjusting to the speed of P5 basketball. I think he’ll be fine long term here. He’s never been a great shooter and that’s not going to change, but he’s always been aggressive in driving the ball and getting to the line and putting pressure on opposing defenses.
There’s obviously still tinkering going on with rotations and line ups and learning to play without Peterson which is going to be huge in the long run for KU in March.
We’ll see what Peterson’s status is for Tuesday, but I’m fulling expecting him to play and show out against fellow #1 pick contender Cam Boozer because I think this is more load management and protecting the goods more than anything else with him. If Peterson doesn’t play Tuesday though, that’s going be a red flag that his hamstring issue is more serious than the staff is portraying it to be at the moment.
Overall, this was a nice win against a team with a good shot at making the NCAA Tournament where we saw this team working through stuff in real time and figuring some stuff out.
You know Self is pissed when Evers is playing real minutes in a game.
@kjayhawks said in KU Vs Green Bay Game Chat:
Auburn getting all they want from the Bethune-Cookman wildcats in OT now
Arterio Morris was fouled down 3 on a 3/4 court shot and made all 3 FT’s.
@DCHawker A lot of the 3’s KU has taken have been good looks within the flow of the offense. It’d be nice to see more drop, but as long as they aren’t forcing it, it shouldn’t be a big issue.
The obligatory pants on backwards clip.
@DCHawker said in KU Vs Green Bay Game Chat:
Hard to judge right now. Defense pretty solid, offense less so - esp. given that Gottliebers are just not very good. We should be able to get to triple digits against this bunch…
This is essentially a 3rd exhibition games for KU. We know this is a great defensive team. I think the offense will get there, but they just need more time playing together to build chemistry. I still don’t see this being an elite offense, but they should still be pretty good by March.
@wissox said in KU Vs Green Bay Game Chat:
Wow, this 22, is he supposed to be good?
Total bust of a player, should cut him loose now before he ruins the season.
Tiller worked on extending his range while recovering. That’s going to open up so mich more space in the paint for Flory, Peterson, and Council.
@FarmerJayhawk said in KU Vs Green Bay Game Chat:
The defense is going to be terrific. That being said, the fighting Gottleib’s might be worse than Hays
I hope Green Bay loses to Haskell since the announcers just said Haskell is going up there later this year.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Vs Green Bay Game Chat:
How many games ya think Kohl needs to justify his spot? Hoping it doesn’t take long for him to show his worth.
He’s starting over Dawson and Jackson, As long he plays with effort and isn’t afraid to let it rip from 3, he’ll be fine.
My concern is if this team ends up becoming too reliant on Peterson to do everything on offense.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU vs Louis Takeaways:
I wrote the other day that Trey White seemed not as big or tall as I’d anticipated. Didn’t seem like he had the size to play down low when needed.
But, After rewatching the first half, I think the camera positions and angles made most of the guys look small. Kohl, too.
So, I take it all back til I see a proper ESPN game or something
Most of our players aren’t tall, but they’re long which is why they’re able to defend well. Length is more important than just heighth when it comes to defense which is why Dejuan was as good a defender as he was despite his athletic limitations.
@nuleafjhawk said in Lance Leipold:
I wonder if the Indiana coach would like to move to Lawrence? It’d be fun to ruin another good coach…
He just signed an 8 year, $93 million extension to keep him from going to Penn St.
@kjayhawks said in Kansas State hate:
@wissox I think he should be fired if we don’t make a bowl. It’s obvious he has peaked here at this point. We always overreact and give coaches too big of a buyout/contract. Wisconsin or Florida he is all yours guys.
Where does the $28 million it’ll cost to fire Leipold after this season come from? I doubt Florida is looking to spend that kind of money on top of the $21 million they’re paying Napier for Leipold. Florida is going to make a run at Lane Kiffin and then Missouri’s coach.
Wisconsin isn’t firing Fickel either since that’ll cost them $25 million for Fickel’s buyout and Wisconsin has always been a school hesitant to open their checkbooks.
@nuleafjhawk said in Kansas State hate:
@Texas-Hawk-10 he ain’t going to be worse than the current one
There’s a reason Marshall has been the 3rd string QB all year.
@drgnslayr said in KU vs Louis Takeaways:
I think Elmarko will be a better player than the Elmarko we knew his freshman year. He seemed nervous his freshman year and the game was sometimes too fast for him, even though he is very athletic. Maybe he was thinking too much instead of just playing. I’m not sure he is completely over that but I think he’s come a long ways!
Elmarko as a freshman was put into a position he wasn’t ready for or practiced for because of Morris. Elmarko was supposed to be Dejuan’s back up and first guard off the bench. Morris getting kicked off the team forced Elmarko into a starting role in a position he hadn’t been playing much and it showed all season.
@Kcmatt7 said in Kansas State hate:
@kjayhawks said in Kansas State hate:
What a disgusting performance, this maybe the first time in the Leipold era I’m ashamed of our program and lack of progress. Maybe the first team we’ve had get worse as the year goes on. If we don’t get to a bowl, his seat should be hot.
He gets one more season with his shiny toys to recruit to. If he misses a bowl next season though you have to move on. He’s done a ton for the program and whoever the next coach is after him needs to send a massive thank you. But the reality is the standard for a P5 team like KU should be to make a bowl game 2 of every 3 seasons to keep your job from here on out.
Leipold’s buyout is currently about $28 million and would be about $23 million after next season. Considering the donor checkbooks are slowing right now and the national economy is headed towards a recession, Leipold isn’t getting fired after this season and he’s not likely getting fired after next season either unless you know where KU is going to find an extra $60 million or so for Leipold and staffs buyouts and hiring a new staff. Throw that on top of potentially having to replace Bill Self in the next couple of years as well and I think Goff is going to be more concerned with making sure he has the budget for for basketball than football at the moment.
@nuleafjhawk said in Kansas State hate:
Marshall needs to be QB from here on out. Yeah, I know, he’s unproven. Daniel’s IS proven. And he’s proven he’s not a very good QB.
Why does Marshall need to be QB? He hasn’t even been able to move past Ballard on the depth chart and yet he’s going to be the savior of the season?
I think coaches generally want games like this called tighter because it’s teaching moments for them during practice and film study because it shows the players exactly what the coaching talks about in regards to defending.
This team has a chance to be really good this year as long as they can stay healthy.
Dawson has missed time every season and his durability was a concern when he committed. Broken hand freshman year, leg injury sophomore year, broken ankle junior year.
If he’s already dealing with a knee injury this season, that’s a concern because his past history.
Texas Tech is one of the best teams in the country and showed why tonight. They are a good team and with their remaining schedule should reach the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Zeke is a nickname for Isaiah/Isiah and started with Isiah Thomas of the Detroit Pistons which also happens to be where Isaiah Marshall is from.
ESPN’s FPI has KU pretty heavily favored against KSU and OSU, a small favorite over Arizona, a small underdog against ISU and Utah, and a big underdog this weekend against Texas Tech.
This Saturday is by far KU’s most difficult remaining game on paper and the remaining 5 are absolutely winnable games for KU.
I would definitely say that KU needs to be bowl eligible after the OSU game to guarantee a bowl game this year.
I’m happy the defense finally proved to be more trustworthy than a wet fart.
Same statement as last week, I trust a wet fart more than this defense right now.
@BShark said in 2026 Recruiting ( Crazy but ):
@Texas-Hawk-10 I believe Mbiya will be gone because of transferring out.
I understand that. My point was that I think Mbiya does the opposite of Flory. If Flory plays to his potential and goes to the NBA after this season, then I believe there’s a much higher likelihood of Mbiya staying because he’d be the presumed starter at the 5 in 2026-27. If Flory comes back for his junior year, then I agree that Mbiya is likely going to transfer somewhere he would be a starter.
@BShark said in 2026 Recruiting ( Crazy but ):
@Jhawk69 I’d be very very surprised if Mbiya is still around. Tiller perhaps more up in the air. Flory I can actually see staying, depends on his draft stock…
Flory is high enough on several mocks that if he backs it up with his defense and rebounding this year, he’ll be gone to the NBA. Mbyia’s status to me completely depends on Flory going pro.
Tiller I think has a better chance at returning because he is a 4 that will likely be playing the 5 this year because he doesn’t have the 3 point shooting yet to project well to the NBA yet as a 4. I think Tiller is the centerpiece to build around in 2026-27 for KU and be KU’s best player that season.
Kansas football will be making history next season. They will play in the first ever college football game to be played at Wembley Stadium. KU will host Arizona St. on Saturday Sept. 19 in London. KU’s previously scheduled game that weekend against Middle Tennessee St. has been moved up to Week 0.
Taylen Kinney is officially a Jayhawk
This is appearing like it’ll be the 7th blown 4th quarter lead for KU since the start of 2024.
Defense needs some stops. Can’t be on the field all game and expect to win.
Oklahoma St. has officially pulled the trigger and fired Mike Gundy this morning.
Florida is the team that’s getting brought up that could potentially make Leipold reconsider things. That’s a program that can win a national title pretty quickly and who I would be most nervous about of they decided Leipold was the man they wanted once they fire Napier after this season.
@wissox said in Beat the Hillbillies:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I understand, but did it cost us yards?
That did not cost KU any yards. Even if it did, defending your QB is worth it from a dirty hit. I’d be pissed off as a coach if my QB took a dirty hit and nobody defended him.
@wissox said in Beat the Hillbillies:
Stupid for KU to push the guy who committed the penalty.
He was defending Daniels after a dirty hit. I have zero issues with what 70 did on that play.
