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@drgnslayr said in KU Roster for 25-26:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Flory received sponsorship from Freddy’s. It was NOT from KU.

Never said players weren’t getting other NIL deals outside of what they’re getting from KU. Whatever the financial details of that are, I will 100% guarantee that money doesn’t come anywhere near what he’s getting from his KU deal.

I’d guess this deal is probably about $25,000 at best because it’s for sure not a national deal and probably only applies to their Lawrence store and whatever other locations that franchisee owns, if any.

This case is going to heard by a US District judge on Friday. The NCAA’s response is actually pretty good. They basically said that of Zeigler had an NBA future, he would’ve already gone pro and wouldn’t be worried about this. The US DOJ pretty much agrees with the NCAA on telling Zeigler it’s time to move on.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/u-s-department-of-justice-ncaa-to-zakai-zeigler-get-a-job/

@SlimShaddy54 said in KU Roster for 25-26:

Here we good, possibly check in late addition hit him hard. Dorian Jones has de committed from Ohio State and is re-opening his recruitment, 6’3 SG and the # one player coming out of the State of Ohio

Sub 100 ranked player with academic issues who’s either headed to a prep school or JuCo next season. Only way he’s playing in D1 this upcoming season is if he finds a school with very low standards.

@drgnslayr said in KU Roster for 25-26:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Flory wasn’t much last year and he did a sweet deal. Don’t pretend to know it all.

Flory’s biggest NIL deal is directly with KU (or at least KU’s NIL collective). He’s not going to be making an additional $2 million on top of what he’s getting from KU. Peterson is going to clear close to, if not more than $10 million in deals because of the deals he signed with Adidas and Fanatics 2 years ago.

My thoughts on this come from what I see in regards to NIL involving UH here in Houston. Unless a player has a national deal with a brand, only the elite of the elite get those, they aren’t clearing 7 figures in NIL on top of whatever they’re getting from their school. Good players can usually clear low to mid six figures on top of what they get from the school, but most players are clearing five figures to very low six figures depending on the market they’re in.

The primary exception to this is social media and influencer deals such as female athletes who pretty near universally considered good looking who use their looks to secure influencer deals like Livvy Dunne or the Cavinder twins.

@BeddieKU23 Bryson is 6-10, 240 lbs. with limited shooting range, he’s not a college 4.

Tre White will be just fine at the 4 spot. Jalen Wilson ended up measuring 6-6 and was fine in that spot, Marcus Garrett and Ochai manned that spot as well at different times figuring what many consider Self’s best stretch of teams at KU.

If KU runs into a situation where a team plays two traditional bigs, then sure, play Tiller some at the 4 if White is getting abused defensively, but that’s not likely to happen.

The defense this season is going to be back to being elite level which will mask some of the weaknesses of this group. KU does have 3 players capable of playing lead guard right now with Dawson, Jackson, and Peterson which will help a lot as at least two of those 3 should be on the court together pretty much at all times. This is a vintage Bill Self roster with positional flexibility as all 7 players currently on the roster that should be in the rotation next year can play multiple spots on the floor.

@drgnslayr said in KU Roster for 25-26:

@Texas-Hawk-10

There is some valid points there. But I guess you know a lot more than Freddy’s marketing.

KU basketball is the only winning basketball in the KC area and, once again, we scored the best player in the KC area. Royals and Chiefs are great but no basketball fans in KC? KC is a big fan base for college sports… a major reason why they own the B12 basketball tournament.

Hell… how about selling KU to Lawrence businesses?

Any NIL deals with Lawrence businesses are likely to be low 5 figures at best and likely to come from the corporate partners/sponsors of KU Athletics and be spread around to different sports.

Darryn Peterson is the only player on KU who should be making significant NIL endorsement money with his Adidas and Fanatics deals that he signed 2 years ago in 2023. Nobody else on the team is going to be making significantly more than whatever their deal with KU is.

(Edited)Here’s what’s known about KU’s 2025-26 schedule so far. KU actually just posted the full non-conference schedule today

Oct. 24 - @Louisville (Exhibition)

Oct. 28 - Fort Hays St. (Exhibition)

Nov. 3 - Green Bay

Nov. 7 - @North Carolina

Nov. 11 - Texas A&M-Corpus Christi

Nov. 15 - Princeton

Nov. 18 - Duke (Champions Classic in New York)

Nov. 24-27 - (Players Era Championship in Las Vegas) KU will have 3 games

Dec. 2 - UConn

Dec. 7 - Missouri (Kansas City)

Dec. 13 - @NC State

Dec. 16 - Towson

Dec. 22 - Davidson

The Big 12 will be back to 18 games this season since KU has 13 non-conference games with Big 12 play likely starting either Dec. 27 or 29.

This is a pretty loaded non-conference slate as usual without factoring in the 3 opponents in the Players Era Festival. UConn is expected is to be preseason top 5, Duke is expected to be preseason top 10, and UNC and NC State are fringe top 25 teams. Louisville is expected to be somewhere around 10th as well so we should get a good feel for this team immediately in exhibition play.

As far as the Player’s Era, potential top 25 teams that could be opponents for KU include Alabama, Auburn, Creighton, Gonzaga, Michigan, Oregon, San Diego St., St. John’s, and Tennessee. KU figures to have at least 1 game in Vegas against a top 25, potentially 2 or 3 depending KU’s draw and performance out there.

In Big 12 play, Houston, Texas Tech, BYU, Arizona, Baylor, and Iowa St. are all potential ranked games as of now as well.

@approxinfinity said in The portal.:

@kuballin10 I think we will be fine with Flory playing some 4. Not terribly worried about that; Flory can guard anyone as long as he avoids fouls.

Flory, Tiller, and Dessert (if he commits) should not play a single minute at the 4 this season unless any of the have significantly extended their shooting range. All 3 have more limited range than KJ and with the primary offensive skill set of this team being the ability the drive the ball, you can’t have two non shooting post players on the floor together.

Right now, we know Peterson, White, and Flory are starters while Council, Dawson, and Jackson are fighting for a starting spot (probably Dawson and Jackson in reality). This is why Self has been targeting starting caliber 3’s so hard because KU doesn’t have one right now and is a huge hole in the line up.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:

We may have to have a board-wide wager as to when the last time somebody will mention KJ or Dajuan.

KJ is on staff now.

@TYOHawk said in Recruiting Notes:

Nike just driving up these bidding wars and losing lol.

Flagg’s shoe deal is with New Balance, not Nike.

KJ Adams will officially be joining the coaching staff in some capacity yet to be determined.

@drgnslayr said in KU Roster for 25-26:

I guess why I’m frustrated is because I come from the business world. KU AD comes from education/not-for-profit perspective. It seems like such a no-brainer to me that KU leaves a fortune on the table by not fully utilizing the marketing potential of the athletes. We LOVE our guys! When I see an ad with a player I don’t change the channel. And I think more favorable towards the sponsor. I feel positive every starter on our team would make at least a cool million every year through private endorsements. Perhaps two or three times that amount. I feel certain it would help relieve some of the financial pressure on the AD.

You are way over valuing the marketability of college athletes, especially in a market like KC that is a pro-sports town. Darryn Peterson isn’t going to have anywhere near the sway that Witt, Salvy, Mahomes, or Kelce have. If I’m a KC based company looking for an athlete endorsement, I’m looking at someone from the Chiefs or Royals, not KU, KState, or Missouri because if you go the college route for an endorsement in KC, you have to get people from all 3 schools to not alienate 1/3 of the customer base in KC.

So no, KU isn’t leaving a bunch of money on the table, those types of companies just aren’t interested because the return they get from a college athlete the majority of people won’t recognize isn’t there compared to someone who plays pro sports in the city and adds more value than any college athlete would.

I live in a major city with a Big 12 school that also has pro sports. There’s only two places I’ve ever seen a UH athlete used in an add campaign over someone from the Astros, Texans, or Rockets. One is Raising Cane’s because they are a corporate sponsor for UH athletics (and many other college towns because that’s their origin), and a personal injury lawyer group that does the same thing in a couple other cities in Texas (UT athletes in Austin and SMU athletes in Dallas).

If you’re a company in KC that has a $250k budget for an endorsement deal, who are you realistically going to target for a marketing campaign? 3 college athletes (from KU, KSU, and Missouri because you can’t alienate 2/3 of your customer base) who may not be around the next year, or do you after someone on the Chiefs or Royals that’s more likely to still be in KC 2-3 years down the line and can do multiple ad spots for your company?

@approxinfinity said in KU Roster for 25-26:

@drgnslayr it is confusing to me when people say KU doesnt have the money other schools do. Why would that be? How is our budget not competitive? I appreciate you trying to put a finger on it, because it seems like fiction or correctable.

KU does have more money than most schools, including other top schools, but we don’t have unlimited funds. KU’s total NIL spending this season should still be top 10, but the two most expensive players for KU weren’t directly from the portal. Darryn Peterson is somewhere around $3 million, Flory is somewhere between $1.5-2 million. That’s the biggest chunk of KU’s NIL spending. As a team, KU is spending at least $10 million in NIL, probably closer to $15 million.

KU’s season is over, fell 4-3 to NDSU today.

KU fell 11-4 against Creighton tonight and will face North Dakota St. in an elimination game tomorrow at 2pm.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in The portal.:

Tell us about him, size, position and age. He could start for me. Chance? Can he take nil?

Looks like the third post player.

Coach Q is leaving the program. His role opening up is the closest thing Self had to GM. Definitely curious to see how Self fills this spot because his role of community relations and building the culture within the program could very easily be transitioned into a GM role.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in The portal.:

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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:

Can we get 2 more decent role players? We have 4 open schollies is it? Shouldnt we be waiting on 2 guys instead of 4 at this point, even if they may be impact guys?

Three more to go. 11 onboard so far. 14 total with the penalty this season.

But, that two way football player is part of the roster? Confuses me.

15 player rosters, can divide scholarships up however. Nickens counts towards the roster limit, but KU basketball isn’t spending scholarship on him since his scholarship is from football.

Essentially, you can still have non-scholarship players, they just still count towards the 15 player roster limit.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in The portal.:

@mayjay said in The portal.:

Not political…just a question on procedures. Visas for international college students are held up currently as the State Dept reviews social media (hasn’t said for what). Could that be putting a hold on announcing any recruiting efforts?

International recruiting just can’t be working well in this climate. I’d focus more on US players so not to complicate matters. Can’t be easy.

There aren’t really any other good options left among HS or portal players unless someone unexpectedly withdraws from the draft at this point that hasn’t already said where they’re playing next season.

The international market is all that’s left to find another impact player.

@mayjay said in Nets fans reflect on Vaughn as head coach:

@approxinfinity IIRC, the Nets dumped salary and tanked right after JV was made permanent coach. Nets fans are nuts.

He was HC while they were breaking up their Big 3 of Durant, Harden, and Kyrie.

KU to the Fayetteville regional and will play Creighton in their first game.

Haggerty is now off the table and is headed KSU.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Recruiting Notes:

@Texas-Hawk-10 so what about Luis? Heard we’re not interested, and how much is he wanting?

I’ve seen his number about $1.5 million which is within KU’s budget if we were offering Williams $2.5 million. The lack of interest on KU’s part was likely tied to our pursuit of Williams since they play the same position so I don’t know of that’s changed now that Williams has gone to NC State. The name I’ve seen the most with Luis is UConn so we’ll see what happens.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Recruiting Notes:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Haggerty if he comes back to school or, more likely, we go the international route.

@FarmerJayhawk Does Darrion Williams going to NC State affect their ability to land Haggerty? I know it doesn’t affect anything in regards to positions, but NC State cut Williams a bigger check than we did, so do they still have the funds for Haggerty or did Wade basically choose Williams over Haggerty and Haggerty has to look elsewhere?

@DCHawker said in Recruiting Notes:

@approxinfinity said in Recruiting Notes:

Crickets. Now we wait.

What - or who - are we waiting for???

June 15 is the withdrawal date for the NBA. Next 3 weeks will be it for domestic based players. There’s really only 3 needle movers that if they withdrew would go to new schools, Jamir Watkins, RJ Luis, and PJ Haggerty.

Jamir Watkins and RJ Luis are positional needs for KU as they’re both wings. Watkins had a great combine and really boosted his draft stick to where he seems more likely to stay in at this point. Luis didn’t have a good combine and isn’t expected to stay in the draft. Luis being the #2 option here would take some pressure off of him. His NIL budget is also expected to be within KU’s remaining budget.

The other option would be Haggerty who, like Luis, had a bad combine showing and is likely headed back to college. If Haggerty came here, then either he or Peterson would have to move off ball. Haggerty’s name has been strongly linked to NC State, but I don’t know how Darrion Williams affects that because Haggerty is likely to have the biggest NIL demands of the 3 players.

If KU doesn’t land any of those three, really two, then it’s the international market where KU is looking at some players.

@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:

Passmore ended up at Maryland

With Diggy

@dylans said in The portal.:

Adidas flagship institution huh? Pony up big boys. Nike doesn’t seem to have a cash flow issue when it comes to directing recruits.

NC State is also Adidas.

KU wins 7-6 on a bloop single just past 3rd base with the bases loaded.

@BShark or @FarmerJayhawk y’all got anything about what KU’s plans are now that Williams, Sarr, and Fland are off the table?

KU just tied it at 6 in 7th with a 3 run homer.

@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:

Christ almighty. We had better have the funds to outbid NC State

Will Wade as the new coach and they were trying to flip Peterson. They got some money so hopefully KU has enough to match because Williams is enough to make KU into a legit Big 12 contender and potentially more than that.

@drgnslayr said in The portal.:

So Williams left town without signing…. Aargh!

Bidding war with NC State. We need a stronger ass offer than them.

@DanR said in Another NCAA Lawsuit:

It actually makes some sense. One more situation in a long list of unintended consequences from the NCAA by opening up the NIL without any sort of plan or rules.

It does and why the NCAA is trying to get Congress to pass some kind of NIL bill so everyone has the same rules to play by instead of state by state.

Definitely feels like a potential successor to Self if Vaughn can handle the transition which I think he’ll be able to.

Also really looking forward to seeing what Vaughn can do with Peterson and Elmarko Jackson’s development.

Former Tennessee guard Zakai Zeigler has sued the NCAA for a 5th year of eligibility.

This lawsuit is different from the Diego Pavia one that deals with JuCo eligibility. Zeigler claims that players that redshirt and take 5 years to complete their undergraduate degree have a financial advantage in regards to NIL over players who don’t redshirt and graduate in 4 years. Zeigler is claiming he is losing out on somewhere between $2-$4 million in NIL because he graduated in 4 years and didn’t redshirt.

Definitely something to keep an eye on as this lawsuit being successful could allow players to play 5 years and potentially end redshirting in college sports.

Fland to Florida

Something that I asked about a couple of months ago was Jaden Nickens who committed to play both football and basketball for KU.

What I’ve read about this is that basketball is now it is in the same format as baseball and other equivalent sports where teams have hard roster limits and can utilize scholarships however they want.

If I’ve read and interpreted this correctly, Jaden Nickens can still play basketball for KU next season and he will count against the 15 player limit, but since his scholarship is for football, he won’t count against the scholarship limit this season so KU would still be fulfilling their NCAA punishment obligation in regards to losing scholarships.

@drgnslayr said in The portal.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yes. I see Williams as a good possibility. Not sure we are a real consideration for Fland. I expect him to stay in the SEC.

We were also expected to land Sarr as well and we saw how that worked out. I also agree that Fland is likely headed to Florida, but until everything is settled, KU has also been linked as a possible landing spot should his plans at Florida fall through for whatever reason.

@wissox said in 2025 Recruiting:

Not much excitement for this signing it appears?

Allen isn’t projected to be an instant impact guy and may never be someone who plays a meaningful minutes for KU. Allen’s offer list is much smaller and much leass impressive than Ochai’s was coming out of HS. He’s a low major talent and this was likely done as a favor to Sherron to bring in someone who can essentially be a practice player for KU this upcoming season.

KU will be the 2 seed in the Big 12 Tournament in Arlington next week. Their first game will be Thursday at 3pm against the winner Oklahoma St. and Baylor.

@drgnslayr said in The portal.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I’d be thrilled to land Williams and Fland. Like you said Williams is better now. We need quality experience to go along with DP.

KU won’t get both, but those are the two big names currently attached to KU. Williams is far more likely than Fland.

🧹🧹🧹 (7-0 today)

WVU still gets the title because of winning % since they had 2 rainouts.

Very unlikely Cedric Coward withdraws. Late 1st to early 2nd round projections (25-35) pretty much across the board. Players in that range rarely withdraw.

I think we are more realistically waiting on Darrion Williams and Boogie Fland who are both at best mid 2nd picks with Williams not being drafted in several mocks.

Sarr absolutely has a higher long term ceiling over Darrion Williams, but Williams is the better player right now and if this is Self’s last season, Williams is the better option for one season.

8-5 KU, KU has clinched the series with WVU.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2025 Recruiting:

Hmm, looks like we just signed a high school kid from KC for this season.

Played HS ball for Sherron Collins, long term prospect.

3-0 Hawks over WVU in game 1 of their series.

KU took 2 of 3 from BYU. They can’t won the regular season title even if they swept WVU next weekend as they’re now 4 games back. KU could end up anywhere from 2nd to 6th in the regular season standings depending on how everyone does this weekend. KU currently sits tied for 3rd with TCU at 17-10 and is a game back of 2nd place Arizona St., and a game up on Arizona and KSU.

@DCHawker said in The portal.:

Tiller and Calderon so little thought of that even with DP, KU’s recruiting class isn’t in 247’s top 25 classes. Nor is our portal class as of now…

Tiller reclassified into 2024 when he enrolled at KU early and isn’t part of KU’s 2025 class. It’s only Peterson and Calderon.

@SlimShaddy54 Quite frankly, this season it should be Bryson Tiller. Tiller has less shooting range than KJ so his best fit should be as a back up 5 this season. He’s got a 7-3 wingspan which makes up for him being 6-9 in the paint.

If Self plays Flory and Tiller together, it’s going to be many of the same issues on offense with KJ at the 4, but probably worse because Tiller doesn’t have the handles KJ did on the perimeter.

@SlimShaddy54 This makes games that we know the dates for. KU will also travel to Chapel Hill for their return game against UNC on Nov. 14 and will play Duke at MSG on Nov. 18 in the Champions Classic. They will also take part in the Player’s Era Festival in Las Vegas over Thanksgiving week. So far there are 18 teams committed to that tournament and it sounds like it’ll be a pool play format, but not sure how many games each team will play in that one.

Other schools in the Player’s Era Festival include Alabama, Auburn, Creighton, Gonzaga, Houston, Iowa St., Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, Rutgers, San Diego St., St. John’s, St. Joseph’s, Syracuse, and Tennessee. Alabama, Auburn, Gonzaga, Michigan, St. John’s, and Tennessee are all in early top 25 polls so KU probably plays at least 2 of those teams in Vegas.

There’s also going to be a neutral court game against Missouri at T-Mobile as well and a game in Raleigh on Dec. 13 against NC State.

KU’s going to have another loaded non-conference schedule this season like always.