2019 Recruiting
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2019 outlook for Duke right now looks bad.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Losing Williamson is on the staff, no other way around it. Kid is one of the best shooters in the country and I think is a player just starting to realize what he can become. Louisville deserves credit for out recruiting Self here.
If we whiff on JRE then its time to hit the panic button. It’s been trending this way anyway since the summer. Certainly doesn’t look like we have a clue what’s going on either from a fan’s perspective
Sounds like Self misread and misplayed a couple situations. In recruiting that can bite you. Not closing Williamson with all his ties to the program is pretty bad no doubt about it.
I’m not even sure where they turn now, there are no good realistic options at the 2/3. The staff was pretty all-in on Williamson. Braun is nowhere near an adequate replacement.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Losing Williamson is on the staff, no other way around it. Kid is one of the best shooters in the country and I think is a player just starting to realize what he can become. Louisville deserves credit for out recruiting Self here.
If we whiff on JRE then its time to hit the panic button. It’s been trending this way anyway since the summer. Certainly doesn’t look like we have a clue what’s going on either from a fan’s perspective
Sounds like Self misread and misplayed a couple situations. In recruiting that can bite you. Not closing Williamson with all his ties to the program is pretty bad no doubt about it.
I’m not even sure where they turn now, there are no good realistic options at the 2/3. The staff was pretty all-in on Williamson. Braun is nowhere near an adequate replacement.
He may not be that adequate replacement but he might be the only choice at this stage - and that’s sad. - Same way on the Big’s GOD forbid we lose JRE and that could very easily happen - -and then If UK ends up taking Hurt? - - - gives a bad look for our staff this year - - who you going to replace them with? – Sure sounds like the staff screwed up with Williamson
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@jayballer73 There are at least other options KU has kept recruiting in terms of bigs.
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No worries. Coach Self will pull a rabbit from the hat and an Ace from the sleeve…he always does and this is why KU wins so much.
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Wing wasn’t a huge need anyway. Williamson wouldn’t have even started if KJ was still around. Ochai has been really impressive so far as well. Come on down, Braun.
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@JayHawkFanToo Except for when he doesn’t and KU has some leaner years. Last couple years have been great though and I am not too worried here tbh.
Non-KU related, WSU got a PG commit: https://247sports.com/Player/Noah-Fernandes-46046890/
Very good tough player, underrated. Should fit in well with them.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Wing wasn’t a huge need anyway. Williamson wouldn’t have even started if KJ was still around. Ochai has been really impressive so far as well. Come on down, Braun.
If KJ was still around? Is he confirmed leaving or something? I figured there is a good chance he will be back.
Ochai is going to be a dude.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wing wasn’t a huge need anyway. Williamson wouldn’t have even started if KJ was still around. Ochai has been really impressive so far as well. Come on down, Braun.
If KJ was still around? Is he confirmed leaving or something? I figured there is a good chance he will be back.
Ochai is going to be a dude.
Oops. Typo. Damn autocorrect.
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@FarmerJayhawk Ah okay, that makes more sense. I hope KJ sticks around.
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Apparently Self was in to see Braun in-home last night. Things might be escalating quickly here.
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BShark said:
Apparently Self was in to see Braun in-home last night. Things might be escalating quickly here.
ding ding
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per my brewster friend Syracuse didn’t lock up Kai Jones on his visit. We’ll see what’s next for him
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BeddieKU23 said:
per my brewster friend Syracuse didn’t lock up Kai Jones on his visit. We’ll see what’s next for him
Oooh. Man I’d love to see Jones in a KU uniform but if he is set on starting (I think you mentioned something on this earlier) that could be a major hurdle.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Apparently Self was in to see Braun in-home last night. Things might be escalating quickly here.
ding ding
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The recruiting services have Jones underrated still and Jones knows it. Some of the stuff my friend has been saying about him is more of a Top 30 player and Kai knows how much he’s improved so not only is he looking to be viewed as a top player but wants his future school to look at him like a starter and future pro. He works with 10+ D-1 athletes a year so I trust his judgement. Cuse did make an impression but Jones is holding out for blue blood interest. He has KU’s attention still from what my friend said
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@BeddieKU23 Awesome. I would hope the staff would take him instead of holding out for Hurt if he wanted to commit.
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Grabbing a 4 year guy now when you probably have 6 scholarships available is fine with me. He seems like a solid add. Good stroke. Good Handles. Good Vision. What’s not to like?
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The same was in a Top 30 player with heavy KU connections.
Braun is a Lightfoot level recruit…
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Isn’t Braun from the same bvnw school the Loyola kids were from?
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Braun is better than Lightfoot at the same stage. He’s not much of a downgrade from Williamson tbh. Just as good a shooter (better from 3), better ball handler, better rebounder. Probably not quite the athlete or defender yet.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Isn’t Braun from the same bvnw school the Loyola kids were from?
Yup. Pretty solid program.
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@BeddieKU23 I’m a pretty big fan of Sam’s game as you know. If he thought he was going to come in and be anointed the starter or given big minutes year one I could see that being a reason for the staff to pivot. With KJ, Garrett and Agbaji in the picture it would take a pretty elite wing to do that, like Achiuwa elite, imo. So maybe Sam would just clog things up a bit. Idk.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Braun is better than Lightfoot at the same stage. He’s not much of a downgrade from Williamson tbh. Just as good a shooter (better from 3), better ball handler, better rebounder. Probably not quite the athlete or defender yet.
I could definitely see him being a better ball handler. Braun was definitely a PG last year. I really like Sam’s overall offensive game and his little step back jumper in particular but if the staff is looking for more of a spot up shooter Braun makes sense.
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@BeddieKU23 I think Braun is probably a better player than Mitch. Mitch is an athlete, but he is either undersized or underskilled depending on how you look at it. I wouldn’t say the same thing about Braun.
Braun is closer to Tyrel Reed than he is Mitch Lightfoot.
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Yes. His older brother Parker had several P5 offers, including Arizona , and chose to be a walk on at MU; he is a pretty good player as well. Their mom, Lisa Sambothe (sp?) and I believe other relatives played ball at MU.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Yes. His older brother Parker had several P5 offers, including Arizona , and chose to be a walk on at MU; he is a pretty good player as well. Their mom, Lisa Sambothe (sp?) and I believe other relatives played ball at MU.
Let’s not go too crazy. He didn’t turn down a full ride at Arizona to walk-on at MU. He did do that to Illinois though, which is hilarious.
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It’s official, Braun to KU.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 I think Braun is probably a better player than Mitch. Mitch is an athlete, but he is either undersized or underskilled depending on how you look at it. I wouldn’t say the same thing about Braun.
Braun is closer to Tyrel Reed than he is Mitch Lightfoot.
We’ll see how it unfolds with him here now. I’ll root for him to make the rotation but its not going to happen overnight either.
At least Braun is a good shooter with good size for either perimeter spot. Shooting was something Self wanted to address in this class
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BShark said:
It’s official, Braun to KU.
Crazy how fast we went to the next option.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
It’s official, Braun to KU.
Crazy how fast we went to the next option.
He did visit before Sam. It’s all very very interesting to be sure.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
It’s official, Braun to KU.
Crazy how fast we went to the next option.
He did visit before Sam. It’s all very very interesting to be sure.
Definitely, all we can do is trust the staff’s evaluations and decisions. Williamson went in a diff direction and we pivoted to the next choice is how I see it. Maybe it was reversed.
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Either way, landing a MoKan kid is huge.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Either way, landing a MoKan kid is huge.
He broke the mold. Nike can’t be happy LOL
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Kcmatt7 said:
Either way, landing a MoKan kid is huge.
Two years in a row!
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I seriously think the Nike money train is on pause through the investigation. This is Bill’s chance to squeeze in a NC or two
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Interesting stuff on this commitment from Ryan on the Phog. Worth reading, it’s in the recruiting thread.
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Going to end up being a steal, like Ochai. Long term could work out great.
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Samuell Williamson will be announcing his college choice tonight at 6 p.m. Central Time
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Oh wouldn’t this being crazy
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BShark said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
Yes. His older brother Parker had several P5 offers, including Arizona , and chose to be a walk on at MU; he is a pretty good player as well. Their mom, Lisa Sambothe (sp?) and I believe other relatives played ball at MU.
Let’s not go too crazy. He didn’t turn down a full ride at Arizona to walk-on at MU. He did do that to Illinois though, which is hilarious.
Yes, he did and also Illinois LSU, Ole Miss and Nebraska.
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@JayHawkFanToo lol
If you choose to believe that I can’t stop you.
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It’s seems like is gonna be Louisville for Williamson
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Oh well. Still depth for days on the wings with this add.
- KJ
- Garrett
- Ochai
- Braun
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Andre Rafus had a “KU offer”.
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
It’s seems like is gonna be Louisville for Williamson
Yep!
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BShark said:
@JayHawkFanToo lol
If you choose to believe that I can’t stop you.
SBNation is a respectable publication, Here is one from Fan Side and another from Rivals and yet another from Arizona…
I saw him play a couple of time and he is a pretty good defensive player with an outside shot. I was impressed.
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If Missouri didn’t have a scholarship for him, Arizona probably didn’t either. They probably passed but schools never put that out there. Like when KU moved on from Jacobs, they let him say he was de-committing and re-opening his recruitment.
I could list tons more examples of guys that reported a KU offer but couldn’t commit. Rafus ended up at Eastern Michigan btw.
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BShark said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
It’s seems like is gonna be Louisville for Williamson
Yep!
Dam what a crazy 24 hours. - I would still love to know if it was the case I would love to know what Coach Self or staff said or done to turn Williamson sour on them that fast and that much. - -Did Braun announce he is coming? - -I saw like 3 CB’S just a few minutes ago. - -I bet he jumps some in the rankings some if that’s the case just because he verbaled to KU
