Can Bruce help us out again?
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Thx Bruce!
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Trae. 20. 6 assist and 12 To’s
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Statie again helping us be in position to win the league. Thanks Bruce and co!
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No court storming or player chucking
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OU getting owned in the Little Apple.
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Got owned. By 18 pts
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OU got their ass - - -KICKED - - the man young 2-11 three point shooting - -12 turn overs. - he is human. - - ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
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@Bwag crazy! Lots of work to do!
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I believe Bruce just came up with the blue print to beat OU. Every conference team will be studying the video.
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@JayHawkFanToo and west virginia. The physical and tough defense of both teams caused Oklahoma a lot of problems.
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Kentucky missing FT after FT in a foul fest at South Carolina. Two UK players fouled out and 3 others with 4 fouls. One SC player fouled out and another one with 4 fouls. 56 fouls called with just over a minute to go and SC up by 3 points and the ball.
Great week so far…
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Trae Young box score. - - 8-21 fg - - -2-10 3 pt attempts - - 6 assists - -and 12 turnovers. - Not a very good line at all - -K State & Barry Brown just took him to the shed - -12 turnovers ! ! and yet the ESPN announcers wanted to talk about how he had scored 500 points in his brief time.
That’s great you got your 500 points - main while back at the ranch your TEAM just got their ass blistered - -by K- State - little FYI this isn’t a me game - -it’s a Team game. - -individual stats doesn’t mean crap if your team is getting the hell knocked out of it. - 12 turnovers - -hmmm - no one else on the TEAM had more then 1 - -so young has 30 turnovers in his last three games, like the story line coming out on ESPN read - Oklahoma may have peaked and time running out now.
Ha to go into overtime to beat TCU at home and now get blistered by KSU - this league is a Beast just beating the hell out of one another.
I don’t know - to me it looked like for most of the night - looked like OU was just going through the motions , like they didn’t even want to be there. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 How can you criticize Trae? He had a double-double.
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Some day we will have to have a mock wake for Bruce… a party to celebrate all the help he has given us over the year!
Again… THANK YOU, BRUCE!
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I’m not congratulating KState or Bruce Weber but I’m glad that OU lost.
Kentucky also lost. Good stuff.
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@Gunman ha ha
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Not a bad line either…other than the turnovers . He lead OU in points, assists and steals and had only 2 fouls.
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@JayHawkFanToo other than 12 to’s? That’s huge! Big 12 record
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I prefer not to look at just one number in isolation, I look at all the stats.
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@Crimsonorblue22 that’s not only a bif 12 record…his 12 TOS is a division 1 record.
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@bmensch1 D1 record for this year.
38% on FG didn’t help the team either. he shot more than a 3rd of their shots.
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Trae has an over 10% rurnover rate the last 6 games. 46 turnovers in 6 games.
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When you’re hot you’re hot, and when you’re not you’re not.
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This is how we keep winning the league. LOL.
Is Texas Tech actually the biggest competition???!
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I complained last year that Coach Weber was out on the court during play last year and sometimes interfered with the opponent’s players. I noticed he is staying within the coaching box this year. It appears the league took care of the problem.
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@BShark yes
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Feels so weird to say. I mean…it’s Tech…but they are tough and really good.
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@JayHawkFanToo he was very inefficient and took bad shot a on multiple occassions. He did not have a good game by any stretch.
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@BShark beard has quite a squad this year. I don’t think we win in Lubbock but maybe I’ll be surprised again.
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@stoptheflop he got a warning last pm
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@Crimsonorblue22 Huggins didn’t want to T Squeaky because it might have caused a second loss in a row for Bruce.
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Gunman said:
@Jayballer54 How can you criticize Trae? He had a double-double.
LMAO - - -OH BOY that’s funny . - -Question, – Did Oklahoma win? - let’s ask again -Did or did they not OU win? - Thank you. - -Basketball last time I checked is also a TEAM sport or is it not? - It’s not a let me get my stats sport.
Your mr double double also got ANOTHER double digit stat in the game - -TURNOVERS - -12. - - 12 - -12 fricken turnovers. - -the ream as a whole had like 18.
I’m gonna say this you all want to suck up to Trae’s ass fine no problem - you all want to melt like butter - -oh Trae look - -look at what Trae done tonight - -Oh , Oh ,Oh my goodness – look. - -Great knock your socks off - -have at it lol, Trae is a very very good player.
However everyone wants to wet all over himself about Trae and the awesome things he does - - Great - -Trae gets all the sugar for doing such awesome things -Then Trae can also stand up by the man and take the criticism when he SUCKS - - -last night HE STUNK - -FLAT OUT SUCKED , you watch he doesn’t play hardly any defense for half the game - jogs back down the floor on defense - as seen last night , backs completely away when getting beat on a drive - -as seen last night, 2nd half he plays some better
People say it’s Kruger saying it’s ok to play that way- - so he doesn’t get in foul trouble - - - -bullshit. - - if he is such an awesome player then he best be able to know how to defends too without the foul trouble, the way he defends - is just fricken sad hell Berry Brown lit him up for 16 in the 1st half last night mainly as a result of very weak defense on his part if that’s what you wanna call it.
Oh Trae got a double double - - AND? - - Again did Oklahoma win the game? - Is this a team game or let me look pretty game? - -get that shit out of here really lame. - -Really tired of hearing this crap -everybody wanting to make him out to be GOD - but nobody wants to acknowledge how he played a HUGE part for OU losing this game. - -ok, let me hear the lame excuses - if it makes you feel better, Just like I said - Trae is very good BUT -Trae will win them some games BUT Trae will for sure help cost them some games as he did last night.
If ANYONE thinks that jacking up a shot about as soon as you get 3-4 dribbles past the half court is a high quality shot - -high pct shot - -then I’m sorry you basketball IQ sucks - That is not the kind of shot wants -or should want. - If you think that stat line from last night of his was ok - -then your basketball IQ sucks. plain and simple - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Not a bad line either…other than the turnovers . He lead OU in points, assists and steals and had only 2 fouls.
SHIT , the reason he only has two fouls is when Lonnie doesn’t take him out and sit for stretches - he isn’t playing any kind of defense - other then some half as OLAEE - it’s more often then not - get’s bet like Brown lighting him up last night beating him multiple time on straight line drives Trae stepping to the side half as waving an arm as Brown blows by him - and according to popular believe that this is how Lon wants him to play as so not get into fould trouble - give me a break.
Last time I checked isn’t there TWO ends to a basketball floor? - -Aren’t you suppose to play Defense along with the offensive end? - -or do we just play the offensive end let me get my stats - and the hell with the other end?
Let me ask you, do you REALLY think with the way he plays defense a lot - -not all - but quite a bit of the time - do you really want to sit there and even try to tell me that Self would give him a pass on the defensive end of the floor no matter who he was? - -Don’t even go there - -everyone knows if you screw around on defense lazy - your as is going to be finding a lot of quality time warming the pine - don’t even try to say different. - the majority of Coaches would be the same way - if he is such the great player - which again he is very good but he should be able defend/guard his man - for 3/4 of the game his defense SUCKS - everyone wants to watch the offensive end - screw that watch both ends. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo other than 12 to’s? That’s huge! Big 12 record
12 ummm , when your team has 18 turnovers - and ol Trae has 12 of those turnovers - last time I checked - that’s not good - -his 12 turnovers is also a record lmao - there is something to write home about - -hey look at me got another record roflmmfao. - -ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 Well, remember, Trae said he decided on OU because Lon promised him “the keys to the program.”
I think you are a bit harsh on him. 500 pts in 60% of a season is pretty impressive. He didn’t make a big deal of it. The announcers did, and for good reason. OU is doing pretty well with him at the wheel, so going all snippy at him for a crappy game is a little over the top.
OU has chosen to ride the Free-Wheelin’ Trae Express as far as he can take them. The kid is phenomenal, but still immature, untested, learning, and growing in BB IQ. He has played less than 20 games in college, so he will make mistakes that look ridiculous–just as the plays he succeeds in look ridiculous. Extremes on both, but over time I think you will be wondering why you didn’t just appreciate him for the unique player he is.
Is it just because he didn’t choose KU?
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I prefer not to look at just one number in isolation, I look at all the stats.
12 turnovers - - 2-10 from the three point line - - 8-21 from the filed is not exactly lighting it up buddy sorry. - you come back with 6 steals - -yay - - his assist to turnover ratio doesn’t really equate out to be anything to be beating your chest about lmao. - - in his last three games 9 - -9 - -121 turnovers ? - you like that - is that something that you should be proud of? - this isn’t the first game he is going to play a big part in them losing - it won’t be the last - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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bmensch1 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 that’s not only a bif 12 record…his 12 TOS is a division 1 record.
Agree. - -BUT see people don’t want to acknowledge that, they want to down play that - they just want to slobber all over themselves oh look - -look at him isn’t he simply the best - umm no - he is very very good - is he a COMPLETE PLAYER? - -Hell no he is not - not by a long shot. - - -people want to get all caught up on his numbers offensively, just don’t want to bother looking at the complete picture, screw that -that’s not how the game is suppose to be played - -you play BOTH ends of the floor - you don’t rest on one end of the floor just so you can come down and jack up three pointers from near mid court at times- nope not how it’s done - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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dylans said:
Trae has an over 10% rurnover rate the last 6 games. 46 turnovers in 6 games.
NOOOOOOOOOO , not TRAE - that’s not possible lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
This is how we keep winning the league. LOL.
Is Texas Tech actually the biggest competition???!
You know they just might be. - -BUT I know this sounds crazy , but heads up tonight, - -ya true it’s Texas - at Texas - -I’m just kind of wondering if something special might not be in the works tonight – -upset special. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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What is it that you have against Young? You have been ragging on him since day one. OK, he had a bad game, so what? Does it make him a bad player? No, it just makes him young, inexperienced and human and your comments sound petty and increasingly redundant.
Young is currently the hottest player is college basketball, last game notwithstanding. If the vote for POY takes place today, he might get some competition form Ayton or Bagley or maybe Ferguson but my guess is that he wins going away; hard not to when he is leading Division 1 in scoring and assist while playing in the toughest conference in the country…think about it. Without him, OU is a marginal top 25 team, with him, OU is a legitimate top 10 team. Any one with an appreciation of basketball would value what this kid does, in my personal opinion, of course
Sit back, relax and enjoy watching him play and maybe you will see something you don’t see so far.
This is nothing personal and not intended to start an argument, just an observation and my last words on the subject.
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HawkChamp said:
@JayHawkFanToo he was very inefficient and took bad shot a on multiple occassions. He did not have a good game by any stretch.
It was one of those game for TRAE , like I’ve said there are going to be games a lot of games that he will single handlely win - -other nights like last night he will play a huge part for the reason of them losing - that’s the way it is - some just don’t ever want to acknowledge that though - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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JayHawkFanToo said:
What is it that you have against Young? You have been ragging on him since day one. OK, he had a bad game, so what? Does it make him a bad player? No, it just makes him young, inexperienced and human and your comments sound petty and increasingly redundant.
Young is currently the hottest player is college basketball, last game notwithstanding. If the vote for POY takes place today, he might get some competition form Ayton or Bagley or maybe Ferguson but my guess is that he wins going away; hard not to when he is leading Division 1 in scoring and assist while playing in the toughest conference in the country…think about it. Without him, OU is a marginal top 25 team, with him, OU is a legitimate top 10 team. Any one with an appreciation of basketball would value what this kid does, in my personal opinion, of course
Sit back, relax and enjoy watching him play and maybe you will see something you don’t see so far.
This is nothing personal and not intended to start an argument, just an observation and my last words on the subject.
YOU have NO CLUE - - NO IDEA clueless, I have said over and over - - multiple multiple times about he being a very good player -I just ain’t sucking his nutts like some. - YOU and some others the way you talk about him on the other side of the fence is like he is a GOD - take that crap out of here And when he has good games - -SO WHAT? - and what when I keep hearing over and over about how great he is reduntant. - -see there you go again about ready to orgasm over his OFENSIVE stats, -you play basketball? - -IF you did - -was you like TRAE where you just worried about the offensive end of the court? - - sad man - -just sad.
Don’t try and use the excuse about this being the toughest team in the land either
- come on you can’t seriously wanna try and make people believe that do you? - we all have seen how that turns out - people want to try and play it up saying were the toughest conference then come NCAA time - -other teams beat us in the tourney like taking candy from a baby - nope that doesn’t hold squat thanks.
You gave an outstanding observation - -not buying it - -but outstanding - I have mine - and I will tell you just what you said to me - maybe you can sit back and observe and see things you haven’t seen like oh I don’t no - - -DEFENSE - and now that’s the last I will say about that. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 Don’t forget our own heroes: freshman Chalmers had 5 turnovers in our embarrassing Bradley game, then in the E8 game against UCLA soph Chalmers had 7 TOs while shooting 1 for 8. Back to the freshman year: we started 3 wins 4 losses, and as I recall 5 star Chalmers had something to do with it, including 7 TOs against Az in Hawaii. There were major rumblings that our latest McD AA couldn’t handle PG.
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@JayHawkFanToo Do you look at efficiency too? Because he shot 38% from the field, 20% from 3, and 50% from the line. He also had a 0.5 assist-to-turnover ratio and only collected 2 rebounds. I’m not sure how any sane person would consider that a good stat line, but do your thing.
That being said, I’m not condemning a freshman for having a bad game. He would still get my vote for NPOY right now.
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There’s no doubt young has talent, my question is he allowing Lon to coach him? It was painful to watch. I’m not sure it was so much kstates D or just young out of control. Thoughts? KSU’s offense was clicking.
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He had 20 points, 6 assist which translates to anywhere between 12 and 18 points and 3 steal, which again translates to anywhere between 0-9 point depending on the outcome. So he directly contributed at least 32 and as many as 47 of OU’s 69 total points or 46% to 68% of all of OU’s scoring, you can’t really ignore this.
Compared to what he has been doing, no doubt this was his worst outing of the season, but in context, it is not as bad as it appears at first sight. The kid has huge talent.
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@JayHawkFanToo I don’t care how many points he has if he shoots 38/20/50 percent to get it. And I don’t care that he has 6 assists or 3 steals if he turns the ball over 12 times. He had a bad game, which is okay. But to say it was anything other than a bad game is laughable.
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I think KSU defense had a lot to do with it and once he stared to miss plays and turn the ball over, it snowballed on him and inexperience showed. I will guess Kruger thought it was best to let him play through the slump and hope he would snap out of it but Weber had a good game plan, one that other conference teams will try to emulate when playing OU; I am sure Kruger will work on that.
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See my post just above yours.
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@JayHawkFanToo I looked at it. Wasn’t impressed.
