Recruiting Thread
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Wiseman is my #1 in 2019, and I’m not sure it’s that close. If he has to go to college, he’s going to Kentucky. We’ll still have Silvio, Dave, and probably JRE. Really good chance at Lawson too. I bet we make Wiseman’s final 5, maybe even 3, but I’d be stunned if he came to KU.
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Latest 247 rankings:
Kansas bound recruits Quentin Grimes, Devon Dotson, Silvio De Sousa and David McCormack are once again considered to be among the top 50 player in the country in the newly updated 2018 Top 247 rankings. Evan Daniels, Josh Gershon, Brian Snow and Jerry Meyer are the four National Recruiting Analyst that put together the Top 247 rankings.
The highest ranked Kansas signee is G Quentin Grimes. Grimes did fall one spot at #13 overall and the #2 combo guard in the class. Devon Dotson climbed one spot to #19 and the #4 overall PG in the class. PF Silvio De Sousa fell a bit to #38 after previously being ranked #26 overall. De Sousa comes in as the #7 ranked PF in the class. C David McCormack also fell a bit in the rankings after previously being ranked #29 overall. McCormack is now ranked #47 overall and is the #6 ranked C in the class.
With the release of the updated Top 247 2018 rankings the Kansas Jayhawks once again jumped up to #1 in the 2018 team rankings. The Jayhawks currently have two five-star recruits and two four-star recruits in the class. Quentin Grimes and Devon Dotson make up the two five-star recruits with rankings of 13 and 19. Silvio De Sousa and David McCormack are the two four-star recruits in the class with rankings of 38 and 47.
Kansas is looking to add to its already top ranked class with either #3 ranked Zion Williamson or #5 ranked Romeo Langford. If the Jayhawks add either prospect to their class the Jayhawks will likely have the #1 ranked class in 2018 all locked up.
https://247sports.com/Bolt/Kansas-has-the-1-ranked-recruiting-class-in-the-country-112274647
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Still not sure why people are considering Grimes a combo guard. He’s a PG. Perhaps they just don’t want to make him a PG because of his size.
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@justanotherfan or because we already have Dotson and Moore. Don’t need three point guards necessarily though it is nice to have a guy who can handle the rock and direct in an emergency
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Grimes is more of a PG than Moore IMO.
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The recruiting analysts shouldn’t be considering where different guys sign to determine their position. Grimes plays on the ball for his HS team. He plays on the ball for his AAU team. Of course, because of his size, he can move off the ball, and he is a dynamic scorer off the ball. But he’s effectively a big PG, and that’s where his future (NBA) is.
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Roach-46035780
New 2020 name.
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Looks like an East Coast destination.
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@justanotherfan Ok, so let’s say we start Dotson at point, then Grimes as a 2, and let’s say we’d have Garrett at the 3. Can you imagine how good our ball handling could be with 3 point guards on the floor? All 3 of those guys played point guard in high school. Then we’d have Cunliffe and Moore that have played point in the mix as well. We have the potential of having a potentially great ball handling team. The Lawson brothers are known for defense. Garrett is known for defense. Cunliffe is on the way to being very good defensively - next year’s team could be the best defensive team we’ve had in a long time. It will have more depth than I can remember. It will be a very young team, but they should be absolute studs defensively.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Looks like an East Coast destination.
Yeah, it doesn’t seem likely that he ends up at KU.
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Hadn’t been too much attention due to the holidays. Apparently Ashton Hagans committed to Georgia. WOW.
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@BShark Looks like a stud, but doesn’t seem like KU was ever in the game. Probably going to be hard to sign top ‘19 guards with Dotson and Moore on the roster. (I assume Grimes will be gone.) But a top wing should happen hopefully.
Romeo in ‘18 would be fantastic too. I just don’t know who is going to leave to open up that roster spot.
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@dylans Oh yeah I never considered that he would go to KU. The squid was hot and heavy on him though (at one point, the cb predictions were all UK and UK was going to a fair number of his games), so now he will have to look elsewhere. I would guess Tyrese Maxey as it will be tough to pull Antoine away from Duke.
My heart is really breaking for Calipari. NOT.
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Don’t understand that one. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up at Kentucky before it’s all said and done. I think he’s by far the best pg in the 19 class
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@BeddieKU23 I hope not, but I could see it too. Generally we don’t see many decommits. This year was a big exception of course due to the FBI crap.
Also Cole Anthony is pretty good. It’s a pretty big drop-off after Lamelo Ball and of course he shouldn’t even really be considered because no one wants the mess of Lavar at this point.
I’ll never count Calipari out for anyone but Anthony would be an extremely tough pull so if Hagans stays solid with UGA and he can’t pull Maxey then Calipari might develop some back aches.
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It just seems like a out of the blue decision. Georgia could have a new coach by the time he gets there. I’m surprised he announced this early
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KU made the final 5 for https://247sports.com/Player/Onyeka-Okongwu-88727
Probably gonna be a Bruin
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Well read where our boy Quentin went off for 44 points & 9 rebounds the other night, the team lost but he had 44.
When he was asked what or how KU was wanting to use him he stated just said they wanted to use him both a lot on the ball & off the ball… He said he feels like he can guard the 1 - -2 - -or 3.
When asked what excites him most about playing at KU? - -He stated just the chance to play for a Hall of Fame Coach Bill Self , wants to be able to pick his brain about work ethic - says KU has produced some really good guards and brought up Marion Chalmers name , can’t wait ti see him on the floor. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
KU made the final 5 for https://247sports.com/Player/Onyeka-Okongwu-88727
Probably gonna be a Bruin
I hadn’t or didn’t realize we were recruiting him, but made the final 5. - -Your right though the CB shows him at 100% UCLA - or if not with the other Schools listed looks like he wants to stay close to the coast back West. - - Arizona St , UCLA ,USC , Washington, & KU - -all Pac 12 other then us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I was messing around with numbers this morning, and came up with what I think is the most likely scenario for the next two seasons.
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HMMM , I don’t know looks pretty good just wonder though about Vick coming back for his SR yr. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 he’ll be back unless he has a first round grade. Which he doesn’t have yet. That could change. If he does, I think we land Langford.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@Jayballer54 he’ll be back unless he has a first round grade. Which he doesn’t have yet. That could change. If he does, I think we land Langford.
I agree 100% about if vick goes. I think possibly it was you that some time back brought forth that this is what Langford was waiting on – to see if Vick went pro or not, makes perfect sense. With Indiana or Vanderbilt no reason for him to wait, if he was going to sign with them why wouldn’t he just go ahead and commit?
I just think the way it’s going if he has a solid year and progress with any degree at all I just believe he will leave - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I did see Vick in the first round in one NBA mock … http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
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@KUSTEVE the key to deep March runs is defense. Been a long time since Self has fielded a good defensive team. I’m looking forward to it.
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Grimes expects to OAD. I hope he plays to that level at KU. Time will tell. I’d sure like to see high level play for more than one year out of a guy before he feels the need to get paid. The NBA drafting mostly on potiental makes it detrimental to stay in college too long for freak athletes.
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@dylans Well that Grimes thing didn’t start my day off well. I looked at 2019 mocks, didn’t see him, but got to the ESPN mock and sure enough, they have him #8. Langford is there too, at #9.
https://247sports.com/Gallery/ESPN-releases-first-2019-NBA-Mock-Draft-108163016/GallerySlides/704606
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@HighEliteMajor lol Don’t shoot the messenger. Grimes said he doesn’t expect to be in college to play with Markese in a recent interview. So I’m just reading between the lines.
I’m just trying to adjust my expectations. I still remember being peeved that Pierce left after his Jr. year.
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@dylans Seems like you’ve got the right read. The expecting thing with the recruits is one thing – but when a guy pops up at #8 in a mock, that sucks (selfishly). I guess I was a little clueless that Grimes was in the presumed OAD category. Hope he’s a world beater.
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Grimes is good enough to be OAD. We’ll see if he’s really the type I haven’t been this excited for a guard signee in a long time
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BMac with more aggressive nature to the hoop. So much more advanced then Ben was at this stage
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UK going after him hard says a lot, thankfully we are KU with a HoF coach and not the likes of Arkansas or Missouri so Cal didn’t swipe our legacy stud.
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Zion deciding probably by the end of January. Clemson I guess? I could see him going there or UNC. Not sure we’re really in it.
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Makes sense, use a no name program to showcase yourself for a year
Always thought unc had a great chance because of style of play. Have to think little going there didn’t help him though
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@BeddieKU23 UNC would be loaded with Zion. Maye, Johnson, Woods, and a few others return. Then add Zion, Little, and Coby White. Ole Roy has something special there.
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Sign me up for a KU UNC championship game next year. I’d like our odds.
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@BShark I could see that! I think KU, UNC, and UK are the best teams going into next season. Watch out for Oregon too.
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Wow, read that Matthew hurt, the big man from Minnesota that we are in on for 2019. - -think je is # 4 player.
Went off for 51 points – -17 rebounds - -5 assists - - 4 steals - - 4 blocks the other night – The kid is averaging 40 points a game right now. = =some one asked if he jacked up a bunch of 3’s - they said no just 2-4 from the 3
They ask if he was that good - -or the competition was that bad - -stated that Hurt is that good their school playing against bigger schools - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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He’s a total stud and very interested in KU.
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according to Kentucky they never recruited him lol otherwise he would be a wildcat.
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BeddieKU23 said:
according to Kentucky they never recruited him lol otherwise he would be a wildcat.
Grimes? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Just poking fun at what they usually say when they miss out on someone they really wanted. They certainly got 3 studs going their way despite Q going to KU but we arguably got the best of the bunch.
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looks like Zion will announce soon, or so that’s what he hinted at. - -Probably either UK or Clemson sounds like - -they think Uk is the favorite right now, although I had heard that playing close to home and family was pretty big for him. - -We will see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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One time post target last year Schnider Herard is transferring from Miss St. Another Miss St that didn’t do much while there is now on the move
Duke’s Jordan Tucker is transferring as well after barely playing this season. I don’t believe KU ever seriously went after him as he wanted Duke. How quickly things change.
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BeddieKU23 said:
One time post target last year Schnider Herard is transferring from Miss St. Another Miss St that didn’t do much while there is now on the move
Duke’s Jordan Tucker is transferring as well after barely playing this season. I don’t believe KU ever seriously went after him as he wanted Duke. How quickly things change.
I remember some posters, no one here, wanted to try and land him over pursuing Doke. Doke seems a liiiiittle bit better.
Weird to wait so long for an offer from the meat grinder and then transfer when you aren’t getting minutes. I’m sure he is disappointed that Goldwire is playing more but Duke has a lot of similar players to Tucker this year.
I wonder where they will end up. I like Tucker long term but KU isn’t looking like we will take any transfers this year.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at Syracuse. It’s very weird that he’s leaving so early after waiting out an offer. I think he was probably not happy Barrett & Reddish coming in next year and Joey Baker the following as well
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@BeddieKU23 Fair point I wasn’t thinking about incoming recruits. No way he would get any PT next year.
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Ok guys, I have a question in our recruiting, and I think I already know the answer but curious to see if you think it’s right or no not right. Kind of silly thought - -but still anyways my question is:
In our recruitment with Romeo , do you think how Indiana season plays out will have a pretty decent factor for Romeo? - -What I mean is - -right now as of tonight they are currently 8-6 on the season, if they continue and have a so so , do you think that would sway him in any way negative wise towards Indiana and be more of a plus for us?
If they were to just end up with an average year or underachieving year - -I feel that only helps us more, as we know its down to KU - -Indiana - -& Vanderbilt. - -If they just so and Garland not landing at Indiana - I just truly have to feel actually our biggest threat for Romeo is more Vanderbilt then Indiana right? - -Even though Indiana is that close to home school some people talking about - I just feel with Garland not committing and then if they have just that’s so so season -got to help us.
I just think we could be in pretty good shape and on top of that if Vick should happen to leave I just think the combination of these things has to put us siting fairly nice wouldn’t you think? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 Looks like we could have a just so-so season ourselves. At least measured by KU standards. May be lucky to finish in the top four of the Big 12, unless the BIG help gets here fast. We are just totally outmanned and we will not hit 15 to 17 threes very often. One hope is for the balanced Big 12 to beat up on each other. But we can not lose at home again to have a chance at keeping the streak alive.
