Langford
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Penny is an unproven at the college level having coached only at middle school level and his hiring was based solely on his legacy status. I understand there is talk about hiring Larry Brown to bring gravitas to the program but I will guess most ADs would balk at that given Brown’s history and more importantly, Brown who has medical issues and will be 78 years old, might not be up to the daily grind and probably enjoys more visiting the various programs whose coaches are friends.
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@JayHawkFanToo I’m sure if he was named as part of the coaching staff, he would probably get a title of “director of bb operations” or something, and be able to do as much as he could hold up to. Or, he might be there to simply help construct their offense/defense strategies. Maybe he isn’t a coach game to game per se, as much as an architect laying out the blue prints for Penny to get him going the right way.
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@JayHawkFanToo penny, I believe was the coach at Memphis east, winning 3 state championships.
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KUSTEVE said:
@JayHawkFanToo I’m sure if he was named as part of the coaching staff, he would probably get a title of “director of bb operations” or something, and be able to do as much as he could hold up to. Or, he might be there to simply help construct their offense/defense strategies. Maybe he isn’t a coach game to game per se, as much as an architect laying out the blue prints for Penny to get him going the right way.
The last report I seen was that Larry Brown turned the opportunity down
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I watched a really good movie on Netflix titled, Amateur. A really good movie about a kid in 8th grade that gets caught up in the crazy world of young bball. In the end he takes control. It’s a really good movie and must see.
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Doesn’t really mean crap but it’s fun time with Romeo watch so mentioning that he retweeted this: https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/982846750850461696
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If he gets any type of official position with Memphis, he would not be able to visit with Coach Self, Calipari or Yankovich which I believe he enjoys and he would also bring a great deal of scrutiny and attention from the NCAA which the program would not like. I think the talk is just wishful thinking.
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has anyone seen alternate channel for the game Romeo is in? - -looks like this dam softball game is going to run way over
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@jayballer73 Try ESPN news
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I get why KU and Duke quit recruiting him but man, Emmitt Williams is a dawgggggggg.
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Ya, well the commentators make a person wonder. - They say it’s just going to come down where it’s going to be the best fit for Romeo. They talk about it’s been Indiana Crazy on Romeo - like with Damon Bailey 0 0and that Vanderbilt and Indiana had been considered the favorites but how you couldn’t ignore a team with the Coach like Self.
They did say however with Grimes in the fold - -Dotson - - Moore and such if that might play into account wondering if Romeo would be able to come in and play like he wanted to be able to play. - They don’t make it sound encouraging as I’d like - -MAYBE he does end up in Indiana , the way they insinuate with coming out and saying - sounds like they just don’t think it would be a fit for Romeo & KU
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@jayballer73 The commentators don’t know their butt from their face. They said Duke was in the mix for EJ Montgomery when Duke quit recruiting him a few days ago.
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Rock Chalk Jayhawk.
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@BShark didn’t even have room for Kansas on their chart
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Romeo Langford said:
Rock Chalk Jayhawk.
Nice.
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Slater CB’d Langford to Indiana FYI…
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@BeddieKU23 I wonder if there is any misdirection going on.
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@BShark - -misdirection? - -how so?
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@jayballer73 Remember when the Dotson camp had someone leak to Maryland that Maryland is the pick? That kind of misdirection.
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All the CB picks are from las year and pretty dated except 4 that are this month. Of the more recent 4 picks 3 are KU and 1 is Indiana.
I am not sure if the writers are just lazy and do not update their picks or believe their original pick are still correct. It could be a little plausible deniability in case the prospect picks someone else they can claim the selection was old and not updated. I wish CB would require them to re-select or confirm if the prediction is more than 3 months old.
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@JayHawkFanToo When a recruit starts coming to an end I know they try to get people with old ass picks to get on and change them if needed. Doesn’t always happen though.
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@BShark umm kind of slow I’m sorry buddy. So you mean that maybe someone in his camp has leaked that he is going to Indiana? - - I’m sorry kind of slow today lol
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@jayballer73 I don’t know anything about the Indiana side of things.
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@JayHawkFanToo Very True cause there are periods where you will see no movement for months - thing is people tend to think well there isn’t any change looks like this guy - -that guy still solid with whoever , when actually might not be the case. Unless you have one of these guys make a NEW prediction the CB is going to remain the same. - Like you say it’s a matter I feel that sometimes these guys just get a little lazy. - -Although with Slater picking Indiana has me a little concerned - he usually is pretty spot on
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At this point, I don’t think anyone knows anything. There are some educated guesses out there, but the family isn’t talking.
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@FarmerJayhawk You could very well be right. Fingers crossed for KU.
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@BShark Vandy seems to be fading. Part of the appeal was EJ possibly going, and with that off the table, there’s significantly less talent. Could all be a smokescreen and people grasping at straws though.
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Romeo’s explanation for what he likes about Kansas is a huge turnoff. Let me puke for a moment. With Vick and Malik gone, I guess we have a need. But this is the kind of OAD crap I’d rather just say go somewhere else. Just completely more interested in guys that want to play for Kansas. I know, outrageous thoughts.
“(KU coach) Bill Self’s resume speaks for itself,” Langford said, as quoted by Flohoops.com. “His success with big guards … he’s good (with) people like Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre. He got them better, sent them to the league. He knows what it takes to get to the league, so that’s what I like about Kansas."
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I hate it when anyone going to college tries to honestly express how he hopes it will help him in a career.
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Yeah, he’s majoring in basketball for a year. Self and co know the score here. The alternative is less talent. The sweet spot is recruiting NBA level players and having them stay 3 years like Wright and Roy.
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Wright to the 76ers!?! Let’s start wild rumors to destabilize the ‘nova machine bwahahaha.
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mayjay said:
I hate it when anyone going to college tries to honestly express how he hopes it will help him in a career.
Lol yeah I was excepting him to talk about Kansas’ top-ranked African-American studies program and the incredible job market for kids with those degrees. And how basketball was just a tool to help him reach his academic goals.
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@mayjay Of course, the honesty is not the issue. The truth of the matter is the issue. I love it when our team gets used for a season. When the focus of the player is not KU basketball, or what he can accomplish here, but rather inward, on himself. And using KU as an 8 month stepping stone. But hey, who cares, right?
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@HighEliteMajor I would say his ambition to be developed by HCBS into a high caliber pro-worthy guard absolutely explains what he hopes to accomplish at KU.
But, wah wah, he isn’t waving pom poms and genuflecting to KU tradition in his several sentences that you have decided define him as a possible KU player.
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Don’t worry. Soon players who are ready will go to the Gleague and players who have to develop before declaring will flock to the few programs who have a history of doing so. All of this one and done none sense will be over and KU will field teams full of upperclassmen. HURRAY.
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@mayjay You do understand I agree he’s telling the truth, right? Maybe you don’t. He wants to accomplish getting to the “league.” I could not care less about the league. Hope you get your autograph.
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@HighEliteMajor Basketball in college has changed, as have all sports, with the players’ realization that they can leverage their ability into highly paid careers not dependent on their schools. It is, I think, both short-sighted and sad to not care about the players except for what they can do to make fans feel good. They are literally playing for their futures. I think it is part of what I appreciate about them to see how their ambitions work out in their lives.
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@dylans Wright will be going to Duke as soon as Coach K retires. At least, Duke will go after Wright. Nightmare.
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@mayjay it’s funny because most of the people who argue to not pay the players are also the most vocal about OADs. Instead of offering something that might make the best players stay and have a vested interest in the university, they want them to play 4 years for pennies when they could be playing for dollars.
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@LSH Wright is no Spring chicken and he’s fully capable of winning championships where he is. Why would Wright go to Duke?
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Scheyer could very well be the next Duke coach.
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Ah I’ve got fond memories of heckling Scheyer at two separate Duke games, one against UVA and another vs Virginia Tech. Of the roster that year, Scheyer was the least dislikeable; i’m ok with him at Duke. Singler, Nolan, Zoubek and Plumlee all pissed me off. Although, Scheyer was the proud owner of this travesty:
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Money. He would get paid considerably more at Duke than at Nova.
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@mayjay I care more about KU BB than an individual player. Do you even read what is typed? I DON"T CARE “ABOUT THE LEAGUE.” That’s what was typed. So, dishonestly change that into something that was not said, and making it into not caring about a player. You’re a pro at that.
@Kcmatt7 Directed to payment of players, I do expect players to come to KU for no money (or whatever their stipend) and play for Kansas. That’s actually the rules. Further, of course, they received significant financial value which has been spelled out many times. And, of course, the players DON’T HAVE TO COME. It’s freedom of choice. They can choose their path. If they want to go pro, go pro. The NCAA and KU aren’t stopping them.
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BShark said:
Yeah, he’s majoring in basketball for a year. Self and co know the score here. The alternative is less talent. The sweet spot is recruiting NBA level players and having them stay 3 years like Wright and Roy.
It is no failure for coaches to not be prescient enough to figure out who is good enough to become an NBA talent but not good enough in his early college years to be mid-1st round draft worthy (the no-brainer cutoff, I think, for anyone not from a financially independent family).
Economists provide lots of stats from which they make lots of projections, but there was one concept I retained from my way too many Econ classes: an opportunity cost is the same as paying for something. When a guaranteed 1st rounder stays in school an additional year, he is literally paying millions of dollars to attend (minus the value of the scholarship). When a player (realistically) sees himself as a OAD, he is anticipating being at that level and, like Langford, often discusses how hard he wants to work for that goal. Scouts and NBA teams will reward players who maximize their talent in that year by drafting higher. Such things can only help their school (provided the coach is demanding, not enabling, as LK did with Trae).
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I was being sarcastic. There is something weird going on at Nova and UNC. Hard to believe they just magically find the pro level players that want to hang around college.
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@HighEliteMajor Just don’t be surprised whenever they go pro then. G League salaries are getting to the point where they offer more value than KU, and certainly way more real value.
That is of course if you believe KU isn’t paying players under the table…
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@HighEliteMajor “@mayjay I care more about KU BB than an individual player. Do you even read what is typed? I DON"T CARE “ABOUT THE LEAGUE.” That’s what was typed. So, dishonestly change that into something that was not said, and making it into not caring about a player. You’re a pro at that.”
I think it is well-known here that you are the pro at ignoring or diverting arguments that you cannot respond to, and repeatedly making ad hominem attacks on people who dare to defend their positions in the face of your attacks.
I did not ignore your continued braying that you don’t care about the NBA. But this argument is about what these kids and the staff care about, not about your unrealistic desire for the sport to submit to your demands. The irrefutable fact is that the kids care about the league because that is their anticipated profession. The coaches care about how to help kids get to the league because that is how they prove to be successful in recruiting at the highest levels.
The kids care about their futures beyond the parameters of KU basketball. You say I dishonestly distorted your statement about caring more about KU bb than about individual kids–I think it is a fair inference to draw that not giving a hoot about their professional goals and financial security beyond the parameters of KU is not really caring about the kids as they really are rather than what they can do to keep you chest-thumping as a KU fan.
And you have been doing that for years. I recall specifically a time when you denigrated a discussion where several of us were praising a number of kids who won academic awards. And, finally, you proved it with all the attacks on Zach Peters you made when he left KU due to his concussion issues (accusing him and Self of dishonesty in his departure and later enrollment at Arizona). I gave you a number of chances to retract those accusations in subsequent years when I posted several articles discussing his retiring from college bb due to his concussions with UA continuing to honor his scholarship on an NCAA medical waiver. Nary a peep. So, yeah, I pretty much think you don’t care about them beyond how they help you feel as a fan.
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BShark said:
I was being sarcastic. There is something weird going on at Nova and UNC. Hard to believe they just magically find the pro level players that want to hang around college.
Jaybate conspiracy?>
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@mayjay Well saying this with tongue in cheek here so please don’t take this in the wrong fashion at all just me trying to keep light hearted - -just wanting to say that I’m sure glad to see that there are OTHERS that get into some what of a some what heated discussion - I was really becoming paranoid that I was the only rebel here lol. - good to see that there are others that have minor spats/squabbles - my statement here is in all in good fun so don’t take any of this the wrong way - just me being a but like normal lol.
I will say one thing and I’m not all up on all of the different things and such but all I know is - - - what is the dream of every single wide eyed kid that comes to College and participates in the game? - -It’s to help improve and develop his skill with the help of the staff, every kids lifetime goal is to Reach the NBA - that’s their dream - their goal - and like you said they look at it as a potential profession - they don’t really come here to appease us, that’s not their responsibility -I mean sure they all want to be a favorite of the fan but the bottom line - their main objective goal is the NBA - not the fan - I don’t blame them - enjoy them while their here - wish they did get more - some or more financial assistance while in school - I understand they have a full paid ride but their is other financial responsibilities while in school - I dunno you all know more then me but anyways - You stay to your guns your logic on this - Again just glad I’m not the only one that gets the pot boiling here at times - -love your pots/threads for sure.- - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
