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@BShark I realize that we really are wishing hard to even think Duval would commit here but - -ALL I’m going to ask on this about is - -just because this so called Duke insider says that KU is about to be officially out, so that makes it Gospel.Because this guy is a know all do all I get it right? lmao, now I’m not trying to give you hell I fully understand - it’s more on the Duke insiders part I am ravin about – what the hell does he know, just because it is on the Duke 247 board which is but nothing but a bunch of Duke homers just like any other board roflmao – these guys kill me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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God I hope not.
It will be hard to recruit guards again, and I can’t blame them for going elsewhere.
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@jayballer54 for the last couple of weeks you’ve been saying that we all know Duvall is going to Duke. So why ? It now?
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It’s not like high profile guards are lining up right now. A lot of misses in this class. The incoming players for the class as things stand are two transfers and a kid that was 100% to KU if KU wanted due to personal relationships (and to the credit of the staff they took him early). Looks to change in 18 and 19 (we will see) but I tend to believe KU will be generally fine recruiting as long as Self is here.
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@Ralph you are absolutely correct - -still think he is, & IF you’ve been following along you can see that I’m not by myself lol. but I find it funny that because A Duke insider says it so , then it’s Gospel - -I NEVER said what I was saying was Gospel - but thanks for noticing, I’m not saying he is coming here not by any means, But then again how does this guy know that KU is out? - I’ll continue to say it IS Duke, but hey if you find anything to the contrary be sure and shout out to me. – All I am pointing out is or wanting to know is - -where is this Duke insider is getting his solid recruiting report - what source - -let us all see it, so we can OFFICALLY count him out, officially say its over for him. - Agaiin I will continue to say like many many others that IS where he is going but we have nothing solid to prove that - so where is this guys solid proof that he is? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -you gotta love it
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That post sounds more negative than I meant I think. I just don’t think Self going back to running some high low will hurt that much.
Anyway, some news: Jerrance will be checking in on Matt Hurt tonight. Good to see we are still recruiting him with some vigor.
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It is just my opinion, but I think the hi/lo is dead as a standard offense. It is best used as a gimmick or a add-on to something else… or just abandoned all together.
Running 40 minutes of hi/lo will not keep us on the path we are on now. For example, I seriously doubt Josh would have come to Kansas to play the hi/lo.
The last few years we have gone from a hybrid hi/lo to a complete abandonment of it.
It is an offense that needs to move aside for the current times we live in. The current times are around opening up the trey line. Driving the ball in a motion offense and finishing at the rim or feeding for an open trey. That is the future of offense in the NBA and D1.
And where are all of these big men who bring back-to-the-basket skills with them to Kansas?
The 4out-1in still maintains scoring potential in the post, actually better since it is clogged with one less defensive big. Heck, we don’t have anyone now that can score with their back to the basket.
I believe the hi/lo did us well back in the days. Now time has moved on, and so must our offensive strategy. It is important to keep the post mostly open so our guards can drive. In our traditional hi/lo we stuffed the post with 4 players, camping in the post. Our 2 bigs and our opponent’s 2 bigs. Not exactly good spacing for 3 guards to take it to the rim.
Remember back when we ran true hi/lo. We pretty much limited guards driving to one guard only. And by the end of the year, we just perched 3 guards on the trey line and they threw the ball back and fourth quickly hoping a seam opened up.
We can’t pull that kind of stunt now and continue to recruit high recruits (at any position).
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Can’t really disagree. I love the offense as it is currently constructed.
What I was trying to get at earlier is that at this point I feel Self is pretty good at letting the roster dictate the situation. If the roster ends up being Mystery non-elite PG/Newman/Garrett/Vick/Cunliffe as the guards and Bragg/Preston/Coleby/Doke and the 9 guys that get run, I bet we see 3 guards 2 posts the majority of next season. One of the two posts on the floor will likely be pretty skilled though in Preston or Bragg. This assume Bragg gets it together and improves in the off season.
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An exact quote for you re Duval
“He’s not going to Baylor. He’s not going to Kansas either.”
From that Duke writer.
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Sorry… I reread my last post and didn’t mean to be so snarky. Guess it shows how much I desire us to stay with a motion offense.
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No worries. It was frustrating to watch the old Self offense when it plodded and clogged.
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After experiencing 4 excellent years with Frank… I’m looking for a PG who has a background as a Navy SEAL or Elite Marine. It wouldn’t hurt if he was in the French Foreign Legion either.
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https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/836702680567382016
Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.
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I can’t claim to know what Devonte has indicated. But I imagine he has declared to testing the waters this spring, as well he should.
Bill’s plea is for Devonte if he sits on the fence after checking out his options. I’m certain if he does test the waters he will have some temptation to go. That doesn’t mean he goes.
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Poster on the phog says KU has called Hutch CC about Shakar Juiston. Could you imagine the cyclone salt if we come in and swoop him away?
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@BShark said:
https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/836702680567382016
Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.
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Hurt dropped 47 tonight with KU watching.
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@BShark His play reminds me of Brannen Green
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@truehawk93 no D?
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@Crimsonorblue22 He is a little heavy on O and didn’t see much D in this vid
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Referring to Hurt?
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Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. He’s skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamari’s size…
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Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.
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Well looks like the Grimes to reclassify thing is dead…
I’ve got a friend that knows his AAU coach pretty well. I asked about reclassification and the response was “no chance”.
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As usual Shay is clueless. Saw that post from Ryan as well. Also said Hamilton isn’t leaving NC.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.
Well, we have done work in Minnesota before.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. He’s skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamari’s size…
I honestly think it would be a bad decision for the kid. KU likely has 5 post players already on the roster, whereas ISU has a black hole void for post minutes.
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Self is going down to Hutch today. Guess we will find out how serious KU’s interest is pretty quickly.
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I’ve heard though, that Self really likes athletic 6’7’’ power forwards. Heard he will play them over 5 stars… Just a rumour though.
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I’d take him if he looks at the KU offer seriously.
With Hamilton, I don’t know how anyone can claim that will be the case this early. His coach is a die-hard KU fan and he’ll run for a team that Frank Mason was on. I do think our chances with him are much better then being adverstised
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KU also had no chance at Doke according to Ryan soooooooo. And I get it, things change and he is just passing on info. But that’s the point, things change. KU can at the very least offer and position themselves to be involved.
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Exactly, our KU insiders have been wrong way too much lately to take much from them in their claims. The Grimes stuff I can believe
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I recall our “failure” to land Doke. I was never convinced and felt we had him all along.
But to be fair to the recruit people, sometimes players do change their minds at the last second.
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The thing about Doke is FSU essentially BROUGHT HIM OVER FROM AFRICA with the help of Nike iirc. So it was believed that he would show loyalty to if not FSU then at least Nike on some level. Getting him was pretty impressive, but of course Norm was the lead assistant on Doke. Never doubt Norm.
No doubt Cal is already working on spinning this. He wouldn’t have been injured if he picked UK.
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Speaking of Norm I believe he is running point on 7 foot BEAST Moses Brown.
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Would not get that excited but Norm is a great recruiter so we’ll see
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I think we know Grimes and Dotson are priority targets (hell Dotson visited KU this year, his jr year) but outside of those two, I think it’s a waiting game to see who KU is really in on.
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Agreed!
I will add I think we’ve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I don’t know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids we’ve mentioned already.
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Sounds like some people have seen Juiston play and are impressed with him. The constant things I see being posted about him, High-Level rebounder, not a jump shooter, high character kid, good vision and can lead the fast break. Video seems to support all that as well
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Sounds like a Bill Self dream. I found a couple twitter accounts that tweet about Hutch CC games. One tweet said a player for an opposing team was daring him to shoot wide open from 15 feet, so I’d guess his range is less than that.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Agreed!
I will add I think we’ve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I don’t know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids we’ve mentioned already.
Sadly I agree.
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@BeddieKU23 and… he has a story
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Pays tribute to his brother who was senselessly shot and killed after every made bucket. Would love to see Juiston end up at KU. Extremely high character.
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@BShark ku fans would love him
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ISU fans already getting upset. Some do have a point though that KU might be trying to recruit him too late if he’s a high character kid and values relationships. Others are just getting butt hurt over KU finally noticing his talent.
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On the other hand he hasn’t committed yet despite having good offers. Might have been waiting for a big time program. I can understand why they are mad though, it sucks getting punked on a recruitment if that ends up happening.
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Interesting to me that Self wants the kid from HCC with Doke, Bragg, Lightfoot and Coleby returning I’m not sure he gets a ton of minutes.
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@kjayhawks should have gone to a game!
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KU will be going back out to see Juiston in game action. Soon.
@kjayhawks said:
Interesting to me that Self wants the kid from HCC with Doke, Bragg, Lightfoot and Coleby returning I’m not sure he gets a ton of minutes.
Not to mention probably Preston as well. However he’s probably better than Coleby and Mitch. Mitch pretty clearly wasn’t ready for post banging in the B12. It honestly wouldn’t kill Mitch to take a RS next year (provided he is okay with it). From what I understand he is being potentially recruited to be the 4th post player most likely next year. In any case he is an interesting player that offers abilities that our other post players don’t really have as much. He is a very good passer and ball handler. A nice Baylor zone killer in the high post.
Total minutes next year probably wouldn’t be high though like you say. The year after though, the post looks to be likely pretty barren so it would be a nice situation to have a SR w/ a year in the program going into 2018-19.
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@BShark good rebounder!
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I hope we land him, high character kids don’t grow on tree’s. This team is losing a lot of leaders and experience. Who’s going to lead the post guys night in and night out? I don’t see any natural leaders on this team if Devonte leaves. Surprising KU was this late to the party, Shakur has been known for a while but maybe the timing will be just right to hopefully get him on the team.
