Trae Young
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The big one right now is that it’s done for OU.
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I saw that and laughed. Supposedly coming from a Oklahoma ST insider.
I agree, I can’t wait til its over.
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Yeah I need to tune this stuff out but I like looking. Sure hope it’s KU.
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Knowing that Matt Scott will basically let 247 know when something is going down because of his relationship with the family I’m confident until something changes. We may have our opinions of Matt but in this case there is no person closer to the situation for KU…
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Matt is a good dude imo. Edit: And yes very tied into this recruitment.
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Yes he does a thankless job really.
A side note, I expected the craziness to come especially as his decision appears to be coming soon. It’s funny how much peoples opinion’s change in an instance with zero credible information to back it up. I do hope he makes the visit this weekend as was talked about… If he doesn’t well he really will be throwing fans for a loop.
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Yeah. Did you see his post about Chris Walker awhile back?
For anyone wondering Walker basically messaged him at random saying he committed to Kansas only to later message that he was joking.
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Chris Walker, a kid that just had a terrible upbringing and made bad decisions all along the way. I wonder where he is now, kid had a lot of potential that got wasted… I thought that was some crazy insight he shared
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NBA D league
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Good for him, honestly that is a kid that could have easily ended up in jail for a long time. I remember his back story being really tough, grew up in a really poor/low income area in Florida. Was surrounded by a lot of bad stuff.
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Definitely. Similar to Jamari. I believe Chris’s mom died when he was young.
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@BShark and that’s why coaches give the guys a second chance.
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@BShark Well, that’s not such a bad thing for us lol right? - - you do mean that they are our of the running right? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Where di you se that? lol - - I like snooping getting false hopes so just to be let down lmao = - makes my heart go pidder pat - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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the trae young thread on phog * Oklahoma State insider says he has info that Young and his dad met with Kruger this week to iron things out. And that he will commit to ou. FWIW*
Funny how this week means only Monday seems how its Tuesday… It’s a good rumor
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@BeddieKU23 Well I reckon if he does he does – I don’t se the logic in that with all the young talent they have there already and like some one else pointed out, looks like to me they already have their point guard for the future already there. - - kind of off sets another remark from a OU guy saying right after Trae announced when he was going to ANOUNCE - -he tweeted out GO POKES, - -THAT to me doesn’t sound like someone that’s going to announce for OU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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He’s not coming, a game was rescheduled to sat.
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Apparently the sign was brought in by students not the University as retweeted by Trae Young…
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@Crimsonorblue22 ummm that’s not good, 2nd time he has cancelled I dunno - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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well he has a game. what else is there to interpret. not much
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JRE will probably be at the Baylor game.
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Okay let’s offer Mark Smith.
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@BShark jre?
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Jeremiah Robinson Earl. Stud. Heavy KU lean. Best KC metro prospect since who knows when.
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@BShark oh yeah I know. Loved his dad
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@BeddieKU23 Ayton is wasting his time and talent playing for Sean Miller. All he has to do is look at Kaleb Tarczewski, D-League OKC Blue, haha. Miller screws all his bigs. He’s not a bigs coach.
Remember this guy? 33 Zach Peters 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) 240 lb (109 kg) RS Fr Prestonwood Christian/Kansas Plano, Texas
How about this guy: Jeff Withey C San Diego, California Horizon High School 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) 210 lb
(http://kckingdom.com/2017/01/31/ku-basketball-recruiting-trevon-duval-visiting-jayhawks-baylor-game/)
Ayton was another KU recruit that Self and Co went all out, even when other schools wouldn’t touch him. Once his recruiting opened, he jumped to Zona. KU was a lock to get Ayton. I’ve always thought Miller was Calipari 2.0
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) Classy coach and example for players(
) Cry baby Miller
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Ayton was a big miss and I do feel strongly that Nike influence pushed him to Arizona but its over now. Arizona is a top program and the kid in the end choose the top school close to home. While it was a shock and maddening at the time, what can we do? Self did all he could and I’m sure there is more to this recruitment then will ever be brought to light.
The comparison to Tarc is not a good one. What about current freshman Lauri Markannen or Aaron Gordon, guys that are of similar ability to Ayton. Ayton will be in the NBA regardless of whether he goes to College or not, the same can be said for the above two players. Markannen is far away the best freshman big in College Basketball. Tarc while a higher ranked player coming out of High School had similar career stats as Landen Lucas. I’m glad we missed on Tarc, he didn’t pan out as advertised.
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@truehawk93 Zach Peters was given a chance for a comeback by Miller after leaving KU and bb entirely because of concussions. He retired from bb after playing just a little bit due to the medical problems, but was kept on scholarship by AZ. I find no fault with Miller on this one.
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Trevon Duval & the legend/national champ Larry Brown
enjoy Lawrence @DatGuy_Trey !!
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@Statmachine awesome, so is Coach Brown in Lawrence today? - -great pic wonder when that pic was taken. - -any idea? – - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I assume it was from today.
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Trevon Duval @DatGuy_Trey · Jan 30
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Official visit to Kansas tomorrow!!!
He posted this in all caps before his trip. Looks like he is excited to me!!!
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@Statmachine hear anything about young?
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@Statmachine Sounds good. - - One thing to be excited, totally another to be genuinely seriously interested. I could hope, would love to happen. - - I just think he is enjoying being able to take his 5 visits the process pretty much nothing more - -nothing less. - -I’m afraid he has Duke written all over him - -going back there AGAIN for A… - - NOTHER VISIT - - unless on his visit tonight, just gets blown away from the game atmosphere and thinks oh, ya could definitely see myself here we can only hope - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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With how invested KU is in for Trae Young Duval wouldn’t be a take even in the unimaginable situation where he wanted to commit today. Sounds weird but its true, the staff wants Young and Duval is the unlikely backup plan.
What’s likely to happen is Young announces his commitment date and announces sometime in February. If its not KU, then KU will continue to recruit Duval and the fan-base will be freaking out yet again.
Meanwhile Duval continues to take visits. Remember he’s essentially visiting KU and Baylor by going on his official to KU. Baylor being on his list gives him a chance to scout them as well tonight. From what I understand from the Duke insiders Duval will be visiting Duke for his official soon, maybe even for the UNC game next Thursday. With how much Duke needs an immediate upgrade at PG its likely he’s already made up his mind and is just enjoying his free visits while he can before the spring hits. If Coach K wants him, he’s going there
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Recruiting is such a strange part of coaching.
Perhaps Duval is here just to use up his official visits. But we can’t offer that too much since we are limited on hosting official visits. I believe the number is 12.
In the least, consider this part of a card game between Bill and K. Duval is here on an official visit… so it has to worry someone like K. We impact K’s recruiting by having him visit.
And we get influenced by recruits visiting other schools.
I know Bill is salivating to sign Trae. Trae is not in the bag, but we have “all hands on deck” concerning his recruitment.
Recruiting has become a game of dominoes. One player commits and the others jostle around and commit afterwards.
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@BeddieKU23 I’m not so sure.
Things have changed for both programs I think. Yea we put the full court press on TY. But only because it looked bleak for TD I think.
It may sound weird, but I’d think our off court issues are a lot easier to explain to a recruit than the on court issues like the ones at Duke. Imagine having to play with some of those guys… not appealing in the least. If we show him a good week (and especially a fun Dollar Night at the Hawk) we could get back in that race.
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Well when you spin it that way maybe so.
But I do disagree, K offered and all the momentum is that he’ll end up at Duke. Duke needs him and that’s really tough to beat in that situation.
Duke is likely to be a completely different team next year. No Allen, No Tatum, Kennard likely goes pro, Jeter has been rumored to be a transfer candidate. Bolden could be gone as well with how unhappy he is with his role. Giles also likely a OAD. Jones & Jefferson are Seniors. Duval can play with 2 very good freshman Carter & Trent and run the show with Jackson. Duke is very likely to be in Kentucky mode next year playing with a bunch of freshman and seldom used reserves.
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@BeddieKU23 Yea I definitely see what you’re saying.
It will all work itself out in the Spring. We need to show Duvall all the love we can, but keep the press on TY.
If TY burns us we will still have plenty of time to sell Duvall on coming here and running a team that is just a PG away from being ready to win. I’d put money on us having a better team than Duke again next year.
It absolutely drives me crazy we can’t land a stud PG recruit. The things Bill could do with an Uber athlete at PG… gives me chills
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@Kcmatt7 I know when I say this people are going to ask me why - -I can’t tell you for SURE why BUT I’m not getting the good of vibes a I was getting on Trae as I was a week or so ago. just that GUT instinct . - -I think Oklahoma really pushing hard - I mean really hard and Mama wanting him to stay close to home. I also just don’t see it With Duval - -I have to agree I think it’s just a matter of him taking his 5 officials - I think he has Duke written all over him - -Like you say man what I would give IF we could land one of these big time PG’s - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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We have a stud PG signed… he’s just a 2019 recruit. And we have stud 2018 PG Dotson coming in for a visit this weekend. We’ll see if Mason’s possible POY season has any effect on PG recruits, it surely can’t hurt.
I expect that if Young doesn’t come to KU that KU will continue to press Duval for whatever that is worth. The situation doesn’t get any better for a recruit this year. Mason is gone, Graham is also likely gone. What else can we possibly sell a recruit who wants to play immediately…
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@Kcmatt7 But somehow we recruited a stud PG. I would rather have a non-stud PGrecruit who develops into a stud player and gives us great ball for 3 to 4 years, than a stud recruit who leaves after one. And note that even a stud freshman PG can be flummoxed by inexperience when faced with a defense he has not seen, as demonstrated aptly by UK’s.
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@mayjay How do you know what you prefer if you have never seen Bill with one of these guys?
And note that we have that type of guy in Garrett. Landing Duvall or TY is important because we may not have any players at that position next season. So landing a stud recruit is actually quite important right now.
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If Trae wants to go to Oklahoma It’s because he wants to stay with his friends and family which I totally understand. I just hope he knows he’s never going to beat KU or win a conference ship. His fate will be like Myles Turner and Jarrett Allen. Recruits spurning Kansas just to lose to us.
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@SkinnyKansasDude said:
His fate will be like Myles Turner and Jarrett Allen. Recruits spurning Kansas just to lose to us.
Excellent point!
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@BeddieKU23 I would have thought the same thing after Sherron… Just funny to me how things work out.
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@Kcmatt7 It is the amount of time they can give KU.
But I am willing to be convinced if anyone has some info–How many OAD PGs have won NCs compared to PGs in their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th years?
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I think we are definitely still the choice for Young. I’m confident because we absolutely know PG is a position of need, not a luxury. I’m usually pessimistic about recruits especially if the battle is against the hometown school but nothing has changed to the point where we should be overreacting. Until Matt Scott or Jerry Meyer relay some information saying otherwise we should be hopeful he’s going to end up here
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@mayjay The rule began in 2005. So it has a full decade of evidence. Twice has a OAD PG won it all.
- 2015 - Tyus Jones
- 2012 - Marcus Teague
Other times though, teams have been lead to final fours by OAD PGs. Here is a list of those:
- 2008 - Derrick Rose
- 2007 - Mike Conley
- 2010 - Brandon Knight
- 2014 - Andrew Harrison (Wasn’t a OAD but should have been).
So roughly 60% of seasons, a OAD PG has gotten their team to a Final 4. That is pretty damn good.
I want players to stay 3 or 4 years too. I don’t want to recruit a OAD PG every season. But there is a time and a place you need to. We landed a 4 year PG and we have one lined up a few years from now. So this season and next season you hedge your bets on OAD PGs and see what happens.
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Add a OAD PG (Duval) to next years team and hoo boy the buckets would rain.
