Duke Game
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@kjayhawks said in Duke Game:
@wissox this team is missing a back true 5 and a consistent shooter imo but we’ll have to see how guys grow into their role.
I don’t get this at all. Missing a center? Flory plays next to the rim the whole game. He scores almost at will, just punished Dukes bigs, plays nice defense, rebounds could improve a bit, but I have no clue why you think we’re missing a true center.
Focus on the next. Beating ND would be our first win of the season against a P5 type team. They should beat them I believe, but without DP (?) we’ll need to play well with energy like we did last night.
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@BeddieKU23 Seriously? People watched to the end? Like, more than one People? Wow.
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My son insisted we watch the whole game lol so we did. I was ready to call it in but with about 5 minutes to go once they pulled back away.
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@kjayhawks said in Duke Game:
@wissox this team is missing a back true 5 and a consistent shooter imo but we’ll have to see how guys grow into their role.
I don’t get this at all. Missing a center? Flory plays next to the rim the whole game. He scores almost at will, just punished Dukes bigs, plays nice defense, rebounds could improve a bit, but I have no clue why you think we’re missing a true center.
Focus on the next. Beating ND would be our first win of the season against a P5 type team. They should beat them I believe, but without DP (?) we’ll need to play well with energy like we did last night.
Flory is fine but we need another one to back him up, see the game when he left the floor. Flory is good but has a lot to learn, see UNC game of him getting destroyed defensively. We needed to get a Tarik Black type guy in the portal IMO.
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A bit annoying to see tweets and ESPN headlines treating Dukes win as a coronation to the title of greatest team ever because they beat us without our best player.
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@kjayhawks I think if we can stagger the Tiller and Flory mins and get Tre playing the 4 ~10 mins a game, we are fine. Booser was a terrible matchup for Tre though as he excels at bulling smaller players and had no issues passing out of the double, so we needed both Tiller and Flory on the court the full game to have a chance. Not many teams have a 4 man of that level, so I don’t think this is a flaw that will sink the team.
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@wissox greatest assembly of talent not to win a title since Duke 2024-2025?
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@approxinfinity Yea I feel like that was what won us the '22 championship tbh…
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They fought without the best guard in America. I can’t ask for much more tbh
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This team has a lot that they can build on will be interesting to see how we fair against the BYUs and Houstons of the conference once we get more time playing together.
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I was pretty happy with our guys play. We had a definite chance in this game. A few guys struggled… Bryson, Kohl, Elmarko. Bryson and Kohl are still growing into D1 ball and I’m sure they never quite experienced anything like this game before. I love the Champions Classic because it gives almost a sort of Final Four feel to it. So far this season, Elmarko has been my guy I expected more out of. He didn’t play much in this game and I know why; he was basically invisible out there. Huge game from Tre… and Melvin started off cold but improved. These two guys give us energy on the floor. They don’t become invisible.
Flory, of course, is high energy and his box score will never tell his story of his value to this team. That became obvious when he went out in the first half and we went straight down. His energy is so high it’s like he’s 1 1/2 players for us out there. He’ll learn a lot throughout this year, and we will benefit from him maturing on the court. I know he’ll probably enter the draft after this year. And, as usual, it will piss me off to see guys go too early. I don’t want to have that argument with others again. He won’t be ready to leave, but he’ll go. Just imagine Year #3 with Flory?! This is a strange year, though… so much talent! And next year will be less (unless something changes, and can). Would be smart for Flory to stick around (he won’t)!
Melvin played nervous. I think he is trying a little too hard sometimes and just needs to let the game come to him. He’s the speedster… he needs to find more creative ways to play downhill and get past defender’s shoulders.
I guarantee you that Duke hopes they don’t see us again this year, especially with a healthy DP! To be honest, I was more impressed with UNC than Duke.
Great game for a lesson and we’ll grow from this. I have lost ZERO optimism for this team! If we can get healthy and stay healthy… then learn to play together. Our defense has huge potential. Self called it right. Our defense was pretty good but when we screwed up they burned us every time!
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Melvin is a bit of puzzle. There are times he takes wild, horribly forced shots and I wonder why he’s out there. Other time he just flies by defenders and is the best player on the court. He’d be really good with more consistency, I think.
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If we had made just four more treys we would end at a 38% clip and likely changed the game.
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Headline in NYT DP’s having his hamstring re-evaluated after missing the Duke game. Self said he will have it re-evaluated later this week. I guess he visits a doctor? He has tightness from a slight strain which is causing the tightness. The cramping issues from earlier have subsided. We will wait and see if he can make the ND game Monday afternoon. I’m guessing he is being treated daily so does slight strain equal a slight chance. The RICE method of Rest, Ice, Compression and elevation that leads to gentle stretching leading to easy exercising. It can take from a few days to several months to heal. Running and leaping are strong stressors. DP will have to follow a full rehab to get strong enough to be in practice or game shape so being very careful with him will lead to what? Early 2026? IDK.
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Melvin had some LaGerald Vick looking plays in him last night. The surprise dunk on a semi fastbreak was the play that I thought of that comparison.
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KU is one of only 2 B12 teams to have two losses. 10 are undefeated. Arizona already has wins against 3 ranked teams, two in the top 5. It could be a long year, esp. if DP’s grade 1 strain somehow persists all year…
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We were better than I expected. I don’t think I’m alone given the way the sports pundits are talking.
TBH, the MSU / UK game had the score I feared would be ours.
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Melvin had some LaGerald Vick looking plays in him last night. The surprise dunk on a semi fastbreak was the play that I thought of that comparison.
Council is Tyshawn before the second half of 2012. He can be the best player on tge court for both teams at the same time.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Duke Game:
Council is Tyshawn before the second half of 2012. He can be the best player on tge court for both teams at the same time.
Ha i forgot when people used to say that about Tyshawn. Good times.
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Melvin and Kinney and hopefully an improved Elmarko should be some depth at point next year
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Melvin will not be back next year
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@Jhawk69 For those wondering, he legitimately can’t be. He had two years of JUCO before two years in D1 so this is already his fifth year. He only got that due to the Pavia ruling.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah Tyshawn is maybe a better comp. If it leads to a near national championship then great!
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Yeah, Melvin doesn’t get the JuCo waiver. It was given for a very narrow set of players (e.g. Diggy) whose eligibility would’ve been up last year.
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2025 KU Shooting stats so far
Team 3 pt shooting: 33% – What did Self say we’d need to shoot to be successful? 37% or something?
Individual 3pt shooting
Ngala – 66.7%
DP – 50%
Tiller – 50%
Tre – 35.7%
Jamari – 33%
Kohl – 29%
Dawson – 26%
Elmarko – 16.7%
Council – a whopping 7.7%
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@wissox That goes along with my comment last night about them having their noses so far up … hmhmmmm, you know. You can refer back to the original comment if needed.
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@ImmunoHawk wasn’t Tyshawn kinda like that?
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Tiller is a big man… but how old is he? Is he the guy that came half way through last year but was injured? He sure smells like NBA talent. Hope we actually get some real play out of him before he jumps to the league. I guess he’ll be streaky for a while, maybe all year, as he gets used to this level of bball. I just don’t see him jumping after this year. Surely he’ll stick around at least one more year, especially since this coming year’s draft is probably the best draft for a dozen years or so.
Weird seeing Traylor on the bench. I’ll probably piss some people off… but I wish he was healthy and had eligibility left… at least until we get more consistency out of our bigs. lol
Mbiya… wow… he’s like a huge pile of clay, thrown against the wall! haha… someone came at me, all hyped up, claiming he’s the next Udoka. I haven’t seen that potential yet, but I sure would like to. Let’s start by putting 30 lbs of muscle on him in this next off season!
