Duke Game
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@nuleafjhawk He actually found something?
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After watching the second half, I’ll say again Kohl should come off the bench once DP returns
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I was expecting much worse
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I don’t think DP returns. We’ve seen this story before. But, I actually think this squad–without him-- has a chance to be in the top 10 by seasons end without him. A lot of youth, but with Tre and Council we could make a good run. IMO. Obviously a better team with him (as a diversion) the longer his poor hammy hurts.
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There were some positives tonight. Flory and Tiller did a really nice job on Boozer making him work tonight. 18 points in 17 shot attempts is good defense.
Without Peterson, this team does struggle to make shots which was a concern heading into this season. There’s been a lot of good looks that haven’t fallen so hopefully they have a game at some point where the shots fall and build up tge confidence.
I still think this group has Elite 8/Final 4 potential this season, but getting Peterson back healthy is a big part of that along with Tiller becoming more consistent with his shots as well.
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I don’t think DP returns. We’ve seen this story before. But, I actually think this squad–without him-- has a chance to be in the top 10 by seasons end without him. A lot of youth, but with Tre and Council we could make a good run. IMO. Obviously a better team with him (as a diversion) the longer his poor hammy hurts.
Ya my inside sources say he never plays again for Kansas again. Hes much more worried about the draft. Makes sense to me if it was a hamstring issue that was serious they announce it so he doesn’t look bad. That and if was a grade 1 sprain they shut him down for a month not have him come back and forth while showing no signs of discomfort.
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@kjayhawks Have to agree , I think it’s time to Start J Dawson and let Kohl come off the bench for at least awhile.
Don’t have anything against Kohl I mean he is still suppose to playing HS Ball, and think he is overthinking some and pressing, he is just not bringing us anything offensive we- -need more.
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@SlimShaddy54 kohl will be great in a few years for sure, just hope he’s still here in that time frame.
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@kjayhawks ya him leaving early as of right now anyways is zelch , zero , nada unless he just ain’t happy with hid playing time for some reason . He is not doing anything on the floor right now for much interest from other schools.
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Kansas 59-57 while Flory was on the floor. In other words, the 21-7 Duke run in the last 8 minutes of the first half was all those a holes needed to beat us.
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Well I apologize to our boys and for the most part busted their butts off and kept this game from being a complete blow out. Just get some key time buckets to fall, or get that rebound when really needed
Tre busted his butt off – -huge game from him , Council was a day/night performance bad first half-- much better 2nd half.-- We just HAVE to get more from Kohl, like I said I think would be goo to swap Kohl for Dawson for awhile , let him come off the bench
I myslf don’t care what anyone else thinks I think they gave Duke all they wanted for the most part without our Stud , sure wish we could get him back BUT I don’t think that’s going to happen anytime soon.
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@wissox this team is missing a back true 5 and a consistent shooter imo but we’ll have to see how guys grow into their role.
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I still hate Coach K if anyone was wondering
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Hey, Trey White. Nice to meet you!
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Kudos to those that watched til the end. Sounds like they gave what they got but couldn’t execute in the last 5 minutes. Foul Trouble in the front court is a major issue. The refs sucked but this is not a disciplined team when it comes to fouls.
Tiller has fouled out in both games against P4 competition. Flory has 3 or more fouls in all but 1 game so far and makes a lot of careless fouls that take him out of the game.
It sure looks like we only have 7 players if we ever get Peterson back. Elmarko and Mari are unplayable imo. Neither has developed a lick here.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Duke Game:
Kudos to those that watched til the end. Sounds like they gave what they got but couldn’t execute in the last 5 minutes. Foul Trouble in the front court is a major issue. The refs sucked but this is not a disciplined team when it comes to fouls.
Tiller has fouled out in both games against P4 competition. Flory has 3 or more fouls in all but 1 game so far and makes a lot of careless fouls that take him out of the game.
It sure looks like we only have 7 players if we ever get Peterson back. Elmarko and Mari are unplayable imo. Neither has developed a lick here.
Peter Danyliv was better for our guys than we thought… Big mistake from the program letting him get away from Lawrence.
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@Kcmatt7 for reference: https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article257778133.html
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Well, we lost.
But, I have to say that I haven’t seen that kind of energy or effort all year. That part was impressive. They now have a standard to live up to every game. We can win games playing like that.
We can’t, however, win games by shooting 4-21 from deep. That’s pathetic in every way.
I think we may win or lose on the shoulders of Kohl or Jayden’s shooting. Both need to get comfortable and start making some shots. Council cannot be trusted to shoot anything other than a layup.
Nor can we win with only 5 bench points. Also pathetic.
But, all in all a positive game last night.
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@kjayhawks said in Duke Game:
@wissox this team is missing a back true 5 and a consistent shooter imo but we’ll have to see how guys grow into their role.
I don’t get this at all. Missing a center? Flory plays next to the rim the whole game. He scores almost at will, just punished Dukes bigs, plays nice defense, rebounds could improve a bit, but I have no clue why you think we’re missing a true center.
Focus on the next. Beating ND would be our first win of the season against a P5 type team. They should beat them I believe, but without DP (?) we’ll need to play well with energy like we did last night.
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@BeddieKU23 Seriously? People watched to the end? Like, more than one People? Wow.
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My son insisted we watch the whole game lol so we did. I was ready to call it in but with about 5 minutes to go once they pulled back away.
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@kjayhawks said in Duke Game:
@wissox this team is missing a back true 5 and a consistent shooter imo but we’ll have to see how guys grow into their role.
I don’t get this at all. Missing a center? Flory plays next to the rim the whole game. He scores almost at will, just punished Dukes bigs, plays nice defense, rebounds could improve a bit, but I have no clue why you think we’re missing a true center.
Focus on the next. Beating ND would be our first win of the season against a P5 type team. They should beat them I believe, but without DP (?) we’ll need to play well with energy like we did last night.
Flory is fine but we need another one to back him up, see the game when he left the floor. Flory is good but has a lot to learn, see UNC game of him getting destroyed defensively. We needed to get a Tarik Black type guy in the portal IMO.
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A bit annoying to see tweets and ESPN headlines treating Dukes win as a coronation to the title of greatest team ever because they beat us without our best player.
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@kjayhawks I think if we can stagger the Tiller and Flory mins and get Tre playing the 4 ~10 mins a game, we are fine. Booser was a terrible matchup for Tre though as he excels at bulling smaller players and had no issues passing out of the double, so we needed both Tiller and Flory on the court the full game to have a chance. Not many teams have a 4 man of that level, so I don’t think this is a flaw that will sink the team.
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@wissox greatest assembly of talent not to win a title since Duke 2024-2025?
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@approxinfinity Yea I feel like that was what won us the '22 championship tbh…
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They fought without the best guard in America. I can’t ask for much more tbh
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This team has a lot that they can build on will be interesting to see how we fair against the BYUs and Houston la of the conference once we get more time playing together.
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I was pretty happy with our guys play. We had a definite chance in this game. A few guys struggled… Bryson, Kohl, Elmarko. Bryson and Kohl are still growing into D1 ball and I’m sure they never quite experienced anything like this game before. I love the Champions Classic because it gives almost a sort of Final Four feel to it. So far this season, Elmarko has been my guy I expected more out of. He didn’t play much in this game and I know why; he was basically invisible out there. Huge game from Tre… and Melvin started off cold but improved. These two guys give us energy on the floor. They don’t become invisible.
Flory, of course, is high energy and his box score will never tell his story of his value to this team. That became obvious when he went out in the first half and we went straight down. His energy is so high it’s like he’s 1 1/2 players for us out there. He’ll learn a lot throughout this year, and we will benefit from him maturing on the court. I know he’ll probably enter the draft after this year. And, as usual, it will piss me off to see guys go too early. I don’t want to have that argument with others again. He won’t be ready to leave, but he’ll go. Just imagine Year #3 with Flory?! This is a strange year, though… so much talent! And next year will be less (unless something changes, and can). Would be smart for Flory to stick around (he won’t)!
Melvin played nervous. I think he is trying a little too hard sometimes and just needs to let the game come to him. He’s the speedster… he needs to find more creative ways to play downhill and get past defender’s shoulders.
I guarantee you that Duke hopes they don’t see us again this year, especially with a healthy DP! To be honest, I was more impressed with UNC than Duke.
Great game for a lesson and we’ll grow from this. I have lost ZERO optimism for this team! If we can get healthy and stay healthy… then learn to play together. Our defense has huge potential. Self called it right. Our defense was pretty good but when we screwed up they burned us every time!
