Not paying for ESPN this year
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Disney sucks.
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I’m just paying for it to watch K-State get beat
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@approxinfinity said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
Disney sucks.
Did Mickey give ya the finger or something?
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@approxinfinity said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
Disney sucks.
Is this jimmy kimmel related? Or just general big money corporations suck?
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I was just being silly in my reply… of course it’s Kimmel related.
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I’m with ya @approxinfinity
I am growing weary of all this Trump-related censorship.
If you’re curious, Disney owns these assets:
ABC, Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Hulu, ESPN, FOX, FUBO, and of course all the theme parks.
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This is very unlike me, but I just cancelled Disney owned ESPN+ and sent them a note about the freedoms of democracy.
I’ll share one sports-themed sentence in my note, then I’ll shut up:
Next thing you know Dick Vitale will be “pre-empted” for supporting any university during a broadcast that Trump has sued.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I’m probably ignorant, so please don’t feel like you have to tell me so. But, if Disney owns all the companies that you listed earlier (and probably more) does that mean you’re just not watching sports anymore? It’s like my son not using Amazon because he doesn’t like Jeff Bezos - it seems like a whole lot of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I don’t agree with paying $3.00 per gallon for gas, but I’m not going to walk or ride a bike to prove it.
I’m not belittling your choice, I just don’t understand the mindset.
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It is of course Kimmel related. I dont watch Kimmel. But i watched the clip that got him canceled, and pulling him from the air over this so drastically crosses a dangerous line.
I also dont want to pay for their shit and have been sick of ESPNs agenda for years. And theyve destroyed the Star Wars franchise.
In other news, if you guys want to watch Alien Earth but dont want to get the Disney Hulu package, you can watch it on Youtube TV. If you like the Alien franchise, it has been excellent.
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My dad boycotted the NFL for the Kapernick stuff. He didn’t watch football for that full season at least, maybe part of the next. It isn’t to say that my dad and I have a poor relationship, we just don’t have a lot of common interests. But one of them IS the Chiefs! 6 months of losing out on one of the few things we had that we could chat about and bond over, to me, was really dumb.
Just one perspective on the whole thing. I’ll be tuning in to all the KU games.
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Yeah im just going to boycott the a la carte stuff. Will still watch things on my cable package.
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@approxinfinity I,m not paying a dime more. Only thing I losing is my sports package. I don’t need that dam NBA CRAO the MLB Network , The RedZone ya da ya da ya da. - -I still get ESPN - -ESPN TWO --FS ONE- --those three right there are the one’s that carry most of KU’s Foott Ball & Basketball then you always have TBS---- and TNT now- -then I have the over the air Channels- - -Then I still have my ESPN PLUS without paying anymore. That combination pretty well takes care of KU Football - -Basketball = - – Volleyball------& Baseball for me. If it’s noy on any of those then— screw it I’ll just listen to it on the Jayhawk network
As far as my Pro portion goes , My Packers , I get them almost every week on Fox or ESPN - - -if not then I just go to my Packers site and listen to the game with the GB announcers- --The Yankees I can catch them some on ESPN or TBS every now and then if not then EHH I’ll be OK I’ll just check the box score the next day-- --ROCK CHALK
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@Kcmatt7 Fair and agree boycotting likely doesn’t make a dent in anything. But the FCC pressuring disney to pull kimmel as a 1A violation seems like a much bigger deal than players just kneeling during the national anthem to me, so not going to fault someone from wanting to do what they can to oppose it.
Also, boycotting disney/espn doesn’t mean you can’t follow the team. You can watch at bars or watch replays/highlights and can always sail the high seas and find a stream if you don’t mind a bit of lost quality/convenience.
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I think the whole thing just summarizes the politics in this country hypocrisy. I’ll start off by saying people confuse freedom of speech with freedom of consequences. I can go tell my boss he’s a f***ing idiot and not go to jail. But I likely would be fired. The Charlie Kirk thing has opened a lot of people’s eyes to the dangers of main stream media calling someone on the other side of the political spectrum Hitler and Nazis constantly. I laugh at the people that are so mad at Kimmel being introuble, why no outrage when any espn or abc employee shared right wing propaganda was fired immediately? MSNBC had a guy fired for celebrating his death on the air. It’s absolutely disgusting regardless of how you feel about Charlie Kirk. Whom was famous for debating people peacefully not violence. A lot of democrats have shown the their true colors and it seems to be a portrait of what they claim to hate.
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There are always going to be some people that can’t understand that, but I don’t see anyone confused here. Disney/ABC are allowed to fire Kimmel on their own. The issue here is that the FCC pressured them to pull Kimmel. Are you ok with that?
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@MR11 Yes if people are killed after being called nazi and compared to Hitler. Then celebrated live on air for it. I think that screams we may want to change something.
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Where did Kimmel celebrate his death? He was making fun of Trumps response to the whole thing.
You are making this about the MSNBC guy when I don’t think that is out of line and maybe I’m not online enough but I haven’t see anyone rational saying that either.
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@MR11 either way we can no longer ignore one sided rhetoric and it has been confirmed dangerous. The issue is with Kimmel was it was completely false. The guy had a trans girl friend I’m quite positive he wasn’t right wing.
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To me if you are reporting stuff on any media outlet that is proven false, you should be fired immediately.
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You are getting quite off topic here. Why are you bringing up reporting? Kimmel is a comedian/late night host not a reporter.
I am saying the government influencing someone getting fired is against the 1st amendment and is a clear violation.
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“The issue is with Kimmel was it was completely false.” I’ll take the bait and get a little off topic if you want, Kimmel never claims to know who the killer is or what his party affiliations are. He is making fun of the fact that Trump is taking whatever crumb of information he can to turn this in to immediately start attacking people. He is not showing any actual remorse for what happened. This doesn’t matter though because even if what he says is false, how is it not a 1st amendment violation for the government to push him to be fired?
“The guy had a trans girl friend I’m quite positive he wasn’t right wing.” Again who the killer was should have no bearing on the government’s ability to violate the 1st amendment.
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The head of the FCC, a government organization, was offended by Kimmel’s monologue and threatened to pull the broadcast licenses of ABC affiliates if they didn’t cancel Kimmel. Nexstar, who owns a lot of the ABC affiliates nationally, caved and indefinitely pre-empted Kimmel.
Regardless of how one feels about Jimmy Kimmel or Charlie Kirk, this is government influencing censorship and free speech and a violation of the 1st amendment. This is a canary in the coal mine moment for the US in regards to how important our rights are to value and protect, especially the right to criticize our government.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @MR11 but y’all weren’t mad when similar happened to espn employees. There are zero right wing people on any major networks at this time because they all been removed and it didn’t bother a soul on left when it happened. Reminds me of the speaker of the house getting kicked out of a restaurant in trumps first term and the left had their fist in the air rejoicing the right to refuse services to anyone. But yet just a year or two earlier threw a complete shit fit over someone not baking a cake. My point is it is simply dangerous to continue to have onesided media, people are literally dying. The left has been censoring the right for the last decade. It’s all hypocritical crap.
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What irks me about this is the double-standard being set by Disney. Sure, it is irresponsible of Kimmel to use his platform to lie about the political views of the suspect. However, if Disney really cared that much about people with public followings being truthful and responsible, they would have fired all the FOX News anchors who lied about the 2020 election being stolen as well.
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@Jhawk69 I think about 90% of the mainstream media needs fired at this point. All they do is push their own agenda mostly with lies.
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I think the best thing about this has been the hypocritical nature it has brought out in everyone.
The party of free speech and legalizing comedy is suddenly for state-forced censorship.
The party for cancel culture and has been spouting the line “freedom of speech does not meean freedom of consequences” is now mad that phrase is proving to be true.
FCC shouldn’t be censoring this. People celebrating an assasination shouldn’t be surprised to get fired from their jobs. Two things can be true. Jmo
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@kjayhawks No I didn’t care about random people being fired for spreading hate online and getting fired. I’m also not upset if that happens to people promoting violence today lose their job. Seems pretty consistent to me, why do you think I am being hypocritical? Do you have any examples where Biden’s administration was directly threatening a company to fire someone over something they said? I sincerely would like to know if you have this as I would also be against that.
In your own postings, you lament the right wing getting censored and are OK with the left media getting censored. How is that not the exact hypocrisy you claim to hate?
@Kcmatt7 Agreed, but it is important to highlight that the FCC censoring people is a significantly bigger deal than private citizens being shitty people online.
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This whole thing is a business deal wrapped in political ideology.
There’s a long standing rule that prevents accumulation of media properties that exceed reaching more than 39% of all US households. NextStar (a media group owning and operating many ABC stations) is interested in buying another company that would result in a violation of this FCC rule. The rule exists to limit concentration of media influence. So this is a tactic to ingratiate them with the FCC chair so that he will make an exception to the rule. Shades of the CBS deal with Colbert.
If you think the media conglomerates are already too big and have too much influence, then you should be pretty concerned about what is really going down behind all of this hand-waving about comedians.
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This is classic wag the dog.
This is not really about Kimmel and Kirk. However, the focus on them is really helpful to those want to continue to concentrate power.
Regardless of how you feel about Kirk, or really any person, it’s not right for their death and memory to be exploited and manipulated in this manner (for profit).
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@MR11 said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
@Kcmatt7 Agreed, but it is important to highlight that the FCC censoring people is a significantly bigger deal than private citizens being shitty people online.
Don’t disagree there. Crazy times
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@bskeet said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
This is classic wag the dog.
This is not really about Kimmel and Kirk. However, the focus on them is really helpful to those want to continue to concentrate power.
Regardless of how you feel about Kirk, or really any person, it’s not right for their death and memory to be exploited and manipulated in this manner.
Whole thing has been disgusting. Every bit of it.
On the bright side I do own some Intel stock. Was finally in on one of the government grifts! (I’m still down like 10% on my initial investment lol).
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I appreciate hearing everyones thoughts. Much the same as mine but more eloquently put.
