NCAA Tournament Discussion
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@rcjhdraft there is a good chance Elmarko by mid season is better than Juan has ever been. I’m a little concerned coming of the injury for sure but Juan hasn’t improved. His stat are identical in most categories, struggles to get to paint and keep guys out of the paint. Was the same thing he had trouble with the first time he played. Anyone that says otherwise is a bold face liar or blind.
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@kjayhawks He was so awful. Starting a point guard who can’t reliably shoot a pull-up off of a screen is brutal for the offense
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Zuby finished the with 23 points and 12 rebounds. He played great the St John guards couldn’t hit the ground with their hat in 3 tries. He had almost the exact same output of KJ and Hunt combined against the same team. Thats a huge ouch man
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Plus Aidoo, who destroyed Hunter for an efficient 20+ points was held to 7 by Zuby
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@rcjhdraft right sometimes I hate myself for being right so damn often believe @Texas-Hawk-10 and I were the only ones worried about giving up Zuby and Udeh for Hunter. I’ve been full of shit about Juan and KJ playing too much to everyone on this site but yet it turned out exactly as I said it would again…
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@kjayhawks yeah sure you are the only one that voiced any concerns about Hunter
i believe i said a thing or two after recovering from the initial nut punch.
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@kjayhawks To be honest, its possible you WERE full of shit about Juan and KJ playing too much. Specifically, if Shak was too hurt to play (as Self mentioned in post game when he mentioned Shak and Elmarko being hurt really affected the make up of this team) and since KJ was a better option to pair with Flory than Hunter down the stretch.
We can agree that roster construction was putrid but Im not sure the consensus is unanimous about playing time. We simply didnt have better options, and those options were mediocre.
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Dont get me wrong, I criticized Selfs decision to have Flory on the bench and went through a stretch where i thought playing him over KJ was the answer. I never really saw an alternative to Juan.
KJ seemed to find new energy late in the season while Juan got progressively worse. But we had to get to that point to see it.
Hunter was the biggest problem on this roster, and then Juan as the only viable handler.
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@approxinfinity I do agree that injuries did hurt us at PG. but we also had Zeke who at times did bring the ball up and Diggy. I said the last two seasons we don’t advance outta the first weekend with them two playing 30 minutes a game. I was a million percent correct period end of discussion. I told repeatedly about how great Juan was several by posters. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them. We didn’t use common sense roster construction the last two seasons and it bit our asses period.
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Zeke and Diggy were never good passers or handlers and cost us as much or more than Juan. There just wasnt another option when philon decommitted and Elmarko went down.
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@kjayhawks my point is you have a habit of getting all “me against the world, Im right everyone else was wrong” and it was never like that, nor is it like that now. There were many people skeptical of roster construction. I am the first person to eat crow when its in order. But I think you are mischaracterizing everyone else as being diametrically opposed to you in the rear view. There were some but def not all.
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@approxinfinity maybe true, I just feel like I’m correct most of the time about things and I flack for it. We are probably all extra pissed off after the way the last few days have went. I not a rocket scientist and probably not anywhere near the smartest person on this site but I know basketball and I know it well.
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I do agree that @Texas-Hawk-10 had this team pretty much nailed from day one of the roster construction. And you were one of the more vocal posters early about Hunter.
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@kjayhawks yeah, you weren’t wrong. just let other people commiserate with you, please. there’s more than one seat in this bitchwagon
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@approxinfinity you I love you either way buddy lol
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@kjayhawks I remember throwing up in my mouth a little bit watching this awkward high five.
Not only is Hunter the face of the worst 2 years of the Bill Self Era, he also is the first big face of NIL at KU, and unfortunately, his legacy will carry that as well.
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Was bummed Zuby got bounced. He was carrying St Johns, and I was prepared to watch him a couple more games
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Was pulling for creighton
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This wisconsin byu game down to last possession
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Hate to be mean to @wissox bit that was the worst officiated game of the tournament so far. BYU wins by at least 12 if the game is called correctly. Had took many blow outs this weekend and Vegas was buzzing the officials lol
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Houston - SIX STRAIGHT SWEET SIXTEEN APPEARANCES
Not too shabby
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@nuleafjhawk said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
Houston - SIX STRAIGHT SWEET SIXTEEN APPEARANCES
Not too shabby
Sampson has proven he is a solid coach down there and they are a problem for us moving forward no question.
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@kjayhawks I’m at my elderly parents who live with my sister. The game was background noise that I turned off at the half. Figured if they came back to win I’d be excited and could watch my recording. First half wasn’t aware of the refs being bad.
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@wissox they was fine in the first half, if watch the second you’ll see lol
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You realize the Big 12 is - – - 9-1 so far in the tourney ? – we won - -6 out of 7 first round games and then we went 3 =3 today/tonight, I’d say that’s not to shabby
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@SlimShaddy54 said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
You realize the Big 12 is - – - 9-1 so far in the tourney ? – we won - -6 out of 7 first round games and then we went 3 =3 today/tonight, I’d say that’s not to shabby
Yes, 9-1 with the good guys being the 1…
B10 and B12 have dominated so far - the former is 10-2. SEC was just 8-6 in the 1st round; lost one more yesterday, although Auburn, Tennessee and Arkansas looked good. ACC a complete flame out and the BE has underperformed.
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@kjayhawks and he pronounces words very well!
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@DCHawker Oh I’m loving that. I do agree that ya , SEC was pretty much the best Conference this Season. Yet come money time- —not so much.
ESPN hates this , they despise the Big 12 in doing well, they along with SEC & BIG want the BIG twelve to no longer exist, that’s why I’m so proud of the league.-- Now w might lose one today --I think Baylor is up against Duke today right ? Even at that how great would it be to have ISU win and our other Big 12 team, forget who that is right at this minute but they win and we would have right at 1/3 of the sweet sixteen
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@SlimShaddy54 said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
You realize the Big 12 is - – - 9-1 so far in the tourney ? – we won - -6 out of 7 first round games and then we went 3 =3 today/tonight, I’d say that’s not to shabby
Nope. Only saw one Big12 game. It was a bit of a disappointment.
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@dylans ya I know it did-- I still have checked in on the others though, not glues to the set but hoping as a Conference we make a strong showing. Others can see what w have to go through beating one another up
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Watching UF and UConn - just much better teams and athletes - going after rebounds - defending the perimeter - multiple guys that can beat their man off the dribble. McNealy would have been our best player…
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@DCHawker Uconn gave it away…., haha
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@DCHawker They play a brand of ball we don’t and they had a bad year but would have blown the doors off us if we played today
They hung with a top 3 team in the tourney - we got beat by a 10 seed without their best player.
Pretty evident who’s better
Mcneely made the right decision not coming here would have been tough to play that 4 spot behind kj and if he started at the 3 he wouldn’t have had the leash to shoot some of the shots he did
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NCAA is really kind of stupid. (newsflash!). Almost 5 hours of air time Saturday and Sunday afternoon to run 1 game during each timeslot, with six still to play and then have to overlap them the rest of the day til late in the evening even on a Sunday night. I don’t know who makes these decisions but it’s really pretty aggravating.
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@kuballin10 You are a piece of work you know that? - Unbelievable
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They do it every year
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FTA disparity in the Duke - Baylor game is ridiculous - 19-2…
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I turned it off half way thru the first half, how come we don’t get calls like that
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As much as I depise Duke Baylor has no answer for Duke inside, and then haven’t been able to stop drives.- -they were right with them until around the three minute mark left in the half
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I was watching at the Y while running. The first thing I see is the refs showing a review and I see the replay of a Baylor guy with a hand on the back of a Duke guy shooting. I mean maybe a common foul…maybe, but reviewing for a flagrant? No team in America gets a play like that reviewed. A few minutes later Baylor dude gets shoved into a Duke rebounder by a Duke guy and he gets called for a foul for pushing the Duke guy. Another one everyone starts lining up for Baylor FTs after a whistle and refs send them the other way saying, no, it was a foul on Baylor. I’m pissed for Baylor.
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@wissox More eyeballs in the evening means more advertising dollars at a higher rate than in the afternoon.
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@patoh3 said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
@wissox More eyeballs in the evening means more advertising dollars at a higher rate than in the afternoon.
Oh, I forgot, it’s a business!
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Dan Hurley’s quote to Baylor after losing to Florida.
“I hope they don’t f— you like they f—ed us. I hope they don’t do that to you Baylor.”
Hurley is whiny bitch to the point even Geno Auriemma is sick of Hurley’s antics. https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/article/dan-hurley-60-minutes-interview-transfer-portal-20212357.php
A couple of excerpts: ““If the only outcome that makes you a successful coach or a successful season is whether you hang up a national championship banner, then you should get out immediately,” Auriemma told Hurley.”
This excerpt is why Geno Auriemma is a legend and so beloved amd respected in the industry, "Then Auriemma came to one of the men’s basketball practices and did what he does best, coach. But he was not helping the players, he was coaching Hurley.
“He kept coaching me from the sideline, like barking at me a little bit,” Hurley said." ‘Hey, hey, Dan, you know, the joy of relationships with your players, the joy of getting the most out of your team, if you’re only in it for the championship pursuit, and none of that other stuff means anything to you anymore, and it’s just banners and rings, then you should get out, because it ain’t gonna happen every year, buddy.’ "
Some people here need to heed Geno’s words of wisdom as well in regards to their opinions on Self.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 My thoughts when I read that exactly. Fits some here , a that is all that seems to qualify as being a successful Coach Pretty solid words from a Legendary Coach in his own right If a little banner is what makes you tick then if that’s what it takes for you to pound your chest and say look at us well then , you have lost what it means about being Successful. Coach Self is a VERY successful Coach with many Successful Seasons Period , end of story
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@SlimShaddy54 @Texas-Hawk-10 i think we can all agree Hurleys ego makes him very unlikeable
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Maryland won over Colorado State with last second shot with Queen walking before making basket with no call. The talking heads are without a peep about it.
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@patoh3 said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
Maryland won over Colorado State with last second shot with Queen walking before making basket with no call. The talking heads are without a peep about it.
Not even a Euro Step.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I think Self needs to look in the mirror and adhere to what Geno said
Self prized two guys above the rest and it caused an all out practically brawl in Utah with players calling coaches out……
Phrasing Geno’s comments to paint Self as some saint is the most comically bad take and heck you’ve had a hell of a lot lately
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The women’s tournament took a big blow last night as USC star JuJu Watkins tore her ACL in USC’s win over Miss. St.
Her and Paige Bueckers have been the two biggest reasons to watch the women’s tournament this year.
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What a snooze fest both brackets have become, imo
