The portal.
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@BShark sucks. Stupid Nike money.
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College basketball…
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I may be the only one rooting for us to only have like 3 bigs on the roster and just be forced to play 4 out from necessity.
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@approxinfinity Doesn’t really work that way in the portal per se.
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@BShark my assumption is that shoe co money is very much driving the bus, when it comes to sweetening deals, a bit above the table and a lot below.
I guess my question would be “whats stopping it from working like that?”
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@BShark my assumption is that shoe co money is very much driving the bus, when it comes to sweetening deals, a bit above the table and a lot below.
I guess my question would be “whats stopping it from working like that?”
Just seems to not matter after highschool. For example Flory signed an under armor deal while coming back to an Adidas school. The main pursuer Auburn, will be a Nike school as of June.
So these kids will take shoe money and money from the schools. Pretty good gig right now.
ETA: Funniest thing might be Flagg signing with New Balance after Nike invested so much into him.
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@BShark lol thats fantastic about Flagg. I may just root for the kid in the pros.
Im sure New Balance stroked a pretty healthy check.
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Also just a gut feeling but I still think Council is a fair bit more likely than Lee.
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Ewin was good for FSU but their fans complained of effort with him which you won’t see in highlights but apparently was there in a lot of their losses. I wouldn’t read so much into it based on how negative the situation was there overall.
Look they had a coach who was on his way out after a great career there and it took them 2 yrs too long to make a change.
Watkins was fantastic his JR yr and while he scored more this yr his efficiency dropped due to the above and having to carry such a big role. I think he’s a very good Robin to someone’s Batman and that’s what I potentially like about him here but again no reason to care unless it heats up. Just a different perspective from a FSU football fan that ends up lurking on their basketball program at times.
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@BeddieKU23 nice insights.
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Do still swinging for fences and coming end up striking out if Phillips & Erim both out. We need that 2nd quality big or were in Trouble
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Also just a gut feeling but I still think Council is a fair bit more likely than Lee.
Honestly Lee is a great add if you can get him as a bench role, in that microwave role. Like when he’s in the game give him the ball and let him cook.
Otherwise I think it’s a bad fit.
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@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Also just a gut feeling but I still think Council is a fair bit more likely than Lee.
Honestly Lee is a great add if you can get him as a bench role, in that microwave role. Like when he’s in the game give him the ball and let him cook.
Otherwise I think it’s a bad fit.
Yeah I can’t envision him going anywhere to come off the bench but I agree.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
Do still swinging for fences and coming end up striking out if Phillips & Erim both out. We need that 2nd quality big or were in Trouble
Pretty sure Phillips committed to MU
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@CasterTroy ya he did. we got to get better at closing , lot of misses
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How can other Schools compete with this type of NIL.- - -BYU handing out reported - -3.5 Million for Wright== =& qre you ready ? --Reported 7 Million for AJ- - B.- -no kid that hasn’t stepped a foot on the floor at the College level is worth 7 Million. – This is why NIL has ruined College Sports
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KU will be making a run at Cedric Coward as well it sounds like.
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Better be - dudes a stud….
Council, Coward and an athletic backup big
Reload and let DP handle the ball at point every possession
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Zach Clemence to Texas A&M
Higher level than I would have guessed.
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@kuballin10 said in The portal.:
Better be - dudes a stud….
Council, Coward and an athletic backup big
Reload and let DP handle the ball at point every possession
Not the portal but kind of like the portal for the back-up big potentially…
Paul Mbiya will visit. 20 years old, from Africa currently playing in France. Declared for the draft but is not really good enough for that. Very large human being at 6’11’’ 260. 7’8’’ wingspan…
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Sounds like a heacache eligibility wise
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As for Coward, looks like he is injury prone. I have no problem with taking a flyer on him but I hope he is not a projected starter
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Paul Mbiya is another name to watch. 20 yr old is looking at visits to KU and a couple others. 6’10 is a backup big target perhaps. Also declared for the draft
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
As for Coward, looks like he is injury prone. I have no problem with taking a flyer on him but I hope he is not a projected starter
He played every single game his first two years of college basketball. He is coming off a serious injury that he should be recovered from.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
KU will be making a run at Cedric Coward as well it sounds like.
Absolutely. Whatever it takes
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Paul Mbiya is another name to watch. 20 yr old is looking at visits to KU and a couple others. 6’10 is a backup big target perhaps. Also declared for the draft
Perfect backup. 5 fouls. Touch guy to matchup with.
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@BShark From what I have seen he has had season ending injuries 2 of his 4 years
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Kevin Overton from Tech in. Thought he was a solid guard for them off the bench. Perhaps an option if we are still looking
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Just wanted to mention for @wissox that Adam Miller in the portal again… don’t know how he has eligibility left. Might as well soak in that NIL one last time
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@SlimShaddy54 does Tiller not qualify as a 2nd quality big? Know he is a freshman but seems like he could be a serviceable backup 5. Granted I don’t know much about his game but his scouting reports all sound like a better fit for the 5 over a 4.
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@MR11 I don’t hear much about Tiller. He’s been with the program practicing for a semester. He was rated around the 25th ranked recruit. But no hype, it’s interesting. I expect someone ranked that high with a 6’10” frame to find some minutes. But it’s pretty much crickets.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@MR11 I don’t hear much about Tiller. He’s been with the program practicing for a semester. He was rated around the 25th ranked recruit. But no hype, it’s interesting. I expect someone ranked that high with a 6’10” frame to find some minutes. But it’s pretty much crickets.
He hasn’t been hyped because he hasn’t been practicing. He came here early from Overtime Elite to get acclimated to college and rehab and ankle injury and then had a surgery to repair a lingering issue with his ankle about a month ago. He was never cleared to participate in 5 on 5 during the spring semester.
His current skill set is much more suited to play the post because he doesn’t have a lot of range yet which is probably the biggest hole in his game. We’ll see how the ankle surgeries affect his athleticism, but he has been someone that can guard on the perimeter a bit.
His defense is pretty far ahead of his offense so that’s why Self is looking for a post who can score because Flory and Tiller aren’t that player yet. As long as Tiller is healthy, he should have a spot in the rotation next season.
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@MR11 I can’t really say for sure, it’s just everything I’ve heard and read is more about him and a four
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I had no idea they would withhold the playbook from Tiller while he recovered. Figured he would be at practice soaking it in like Elmarko. That seems like a ridiculous strategy.
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@MR11 said in The portal.:
@SlimShaddy54 does Tiller not qualify as a 2nd quality big? Know he is a freshman but seems like he could be a serviceable backup 5. Granted I don’t know much about his game but his scouting reports all sound like a better fit for the 5 over a 4.
If he was healthy there would be more to talk about with him. Unfortunately, he came to KU early from the HS ranks still recovering from a major ankle injury, never got cleared during the semester and now has had surgery recently which is going to put him out another few months. So, we are talking about a player that has missed now at least 1 full calendar year of playing basketball and will be out until early summer. I think it’s just wise to say until he can actually play that nobody has any idea, not even the coaches. You’d hope he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th big next season but even that seems like a stretch. I’m not sure he’ll be a focus for the upcoming year. TBD I guess.
He’s probably a college 5-man tbh. There’s some skills there of a 4 but probably a ways off from that being utilized, if at all here.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I had no idea they would withhold the playbook from Tiller while he recovered. Figured he would be at practice soaking it in like Elmarko. That seems like a ridiculous strategy.
The staff didn’t withhold the playbook from Tiller. He was never medically cleared for 5 on 5 drills so he wasn’t able to do scout team stuff and was likely doing whatever individual drills he was medically cleared to do like Elmarko was.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
I really enjoy how good of a passer he is in his highlights. He can create some pretty crazy passing angles and find lanes that shouldn’t be there. Him and DP in a little two man game would be insane.
My thought exactly. Let DP create off the ball sometimes…
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
If he was healthy there would be more to talk about with him. Unfortunately, he came to KU early from the HS ranks still recovering from a major ankle injury
Just recently I visited AFH and read what was on the Phog Allen statue… “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”
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Just getting out in front of this one, to land Xzayvier Brown you have to hire his dad. Sounds like OU is the favorite for that atm.
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@BShark Would prefer better coaching…
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Portal closes a week from tomorrow April 22nd.-- not for commit but they have to be entered.- -Not feeling quite so bad/ nervous after seeing this:
Portal numbes as of Week three ,-- -Entered 2,050- ---- Committed — 393 .- - Portal commits- - -19 %---- -Still Looking-- --81 %-- that’s a lot of still un-committed players , plus any others that enter before April 22nd.-
They can still commit long after the 22nd-- -just have to be entered by then,
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Found pretty interesting Article tonight. Basicall talked about How St Johns , had been talking pretty good about Lee’s visit with them- --had a pic of him in a St John jersey - -standing by trophies and such and how they had been considered pretty much a favorite along with I think some others in contention – - BUT
this is what I found interesting anyways take it with a grain of salt, but the headline of the article said that St John had ran into an unexpected Road Block in their recruitment of Lee. Saying that St John had been considered a favorite but then Lee comes out and is visiting KANSAS- -and now the rumor going around is that it looks like it very well might come down to Florida ( the defending Champ ) or Kansas. - --what ?- -that would be sweet. like I said take it with a grain of salt but still interesting
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I am hearing crickets about the Council and Lee visits
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Rumors we got Council and passed on Lee
I’m good with that - Council is the superior athlete
He, DP, Dawson, White and Flory is a solid 5 Self should roll out there but I’m sure we get another big and he finds a way to play two lumbering bigs who can’t shoot outside of 5 feet
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
If he was healthy there would be more to talk about with him. Unfortunately, he came to KU early from the HS ranks still recovering from a major ankle injury, never got cleared during the semester and now has had surgery recently which is going to put him out another few months. So, we are talking about a player that has missed now at least 1 full calendar year of playing basketball and will be out until early summer. I think it’s just wise to say until he can actually play that nobody has any idea, not even the coaches. You’d hope he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th big next season but even that seems like a stretch. I’m not sure he’ll be a focus for the upcoming year. TBD I guess.
Yeah fair assessment and very well could be the case. Even if Tiller is the 2nd big on the roster I can see wanting to have a good rotation option behind him as Flory can be foul prone and don’t want to be left with just relying on Tiller.
I am hoping a backup 5 role is a reasonable expectation for him though so it allows us to put energy/NIL on shoring up our wing position over using a big chunk of that on a 3rd big.
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@kuballin10 said in The portal.:
Rumors we got Council and passed on Lee
I’m good with that - Council is the superior athlete
He, DP, Dawson, White and Flory is a solid 5 Self should roll out there but I’m sure we get another big and he finds a way to play two lumbering bigs who can’t shoot outside of 5 feet
They need an athletic wing and a good rim runner at the backup 5 spot imo.
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I would rather have a bruiser at the backup 5 for a change of pace. Flory and Tiller are already rim runners
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Bill Self baaaang
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Cedric Coward- KU has made contact. One to monitor.
