The portal.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
While we are down the Indiana Roster Rabbit-Hole, man look at Mackenzie Mgbako’s stats through two years, another player that almost was a Jayhawk initially.
His stats are almost identical from freshman to soph year & I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like it. 3pt fg%, FT%, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, turnovers and ppg are almost identical its scary. Minutes per game, FG%, Field Goals attempted per game, fouls per game saw very slight changes. It’s like he repeated the year exactly. How’s that for consistency…
That is who should be playing at the 4. I’ll be a bit deflated if we roll out two bigs again for 40 minutes a game.
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We wouldn’t even look at Mgbako I bet.
Now Bryce Hopkins, that’s a JAYHAWK (I pray and beg)
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@BShark said in The portal.:
We wouldn’t even look at Mgbako I bet.
Now Bryce Hopkins, that’s a JAYHAWK (I pray and beg)
I’d probably cry if we got him at this point. He reminds me a lot of Jalen Wilson maybe even better 6’7 guy that plays like a guard. I’m just scared we will roll out 2 bigs that are completely useless more than 5 feet away from The goal.
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@kjayhawks said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
We wouldn’t even look at Mgbako I bet.
Now Bryce Hopkins, that’s a JAYHAWK (I pray and beg)
I’d probably cry if we got him at this point. He reminds me a lot of Jalen Wilson maybe even better 6’7 guy that plays like a guard. I’m just scared we will roll out 2 bigs that are completely useless more than 5 feet away from The goal.
Having two bigs clog the lane with DP coming in doesn’t sound ideal? He needs room to get in the lane.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I hope Bill gets back to the 4 guard line up around Flory. Made a FF run in 2018 and won a title in 2022 like he forgot about those years.
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Maybe I shouldn’t make my evaluation of Reneau this way, but Indiana has just underachieved for a decade now and I just see him as a part of that. 5 star I think, which scares me as a Badger fan, and then we beat them like we almost always do and just think meh, whatever. Maybe it’s more mishandling by Woodson but I’m a no buy on Indiana guys.
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13 and 3 out of the 4 spot. Hmm stats like KJ. Can he defend like him too? I’d like to see better rebounding. T-Rex arms on both of them?
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@BShark said in The portal.:
I think some people are going to be really disappointed by what we go after at the 4 spot if what I’ve heard is true.
A leopard doesn’t change its spots
Bill would rather play 2 bigs over 4 guards. This is disheartening and shows Bill and co. Haven’t learned anything from these last 5/6 years.
Two bigs both unable to stretch the floor is yet again another disaster with roster construction
We don’t ever run either so that won’t change (unless we get down double digits then we fastbreak)
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Devries is really getting a black eye over this process claiming he held his son out for most of the season so he could transfer to a better school than WVU and not risk getting hurt. Of course this is a year after being hired away from his previous stop at Iowa Agricultural Institute (I forget where he was and would rather just make up a name than actually, you know, research where he was). When taking the WVU job he told the entire state he was in it for the long hall as a mountaineer. What a rough week to be a Mountaineer fan.
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@approxinfinity It’s been really interesting being a fan of both teams a lot of these years. Keep waiting til they both really click at the same time and get to the FF together. While I try not to talk about them too much here it comes up because they’re the only other team I’m really familiar with besides KU and sometimes it can relate. I participate in one of those SBNation sites with them that is very active and fills my need.
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Minnesota forward Frank Mitchell has entered the portal. This is who I would personally love to see KU bring in as a back up for Flory.
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Opens Monday officially.
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Old friend Marcus Adams Jr in after a good yr at Cal St Northridge. Time to get him back?
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We should look at Colorado St’s Kyan Evans (if he entered). kcmo kid having a giant game against Memphis right now. Soph has good stats and shooting splits
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@BeddieKU23 His PER is 14.7 which is below average. For comparison, Zeke’s PER his last season at SDSU was 20.8 and Diggy was 19.2 at NIU and each of their PER’s dropped this season. There’s something in Evans offensive that isn’t good and I would say pass if the expectation would be for him to be a rotation level player.
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@kuballin10 Thought-provoking perspective. I was wondering if things would’ve turned out differently if we’d brought in some solid transfer players. BS would likely enforce his rigid system on them, which tends to stifle players’ basketball IQ, as we’ve noticed with his squad. I’d love to see some versatile, agile bigs with good court vision, decent passing, the ability to play high-low in the post, handle the ball, hit jumpers, and stretch the floor—essentially, modern bigs. But, as you called him a leopard (never changing its spots), he might just end up derailing their careers.
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Look at all the PER’S of guys who came here last year and it didn’t matter how good they were they all regressed. Just saying it’s a localish kid that’s got 2 more years and had a big game in a tournament win.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Look at all the PER’S of guys who came here last year and it didn’t matter how good they were they all regressed. Just saying it’s a localish kid that’s got 2 more years and had a big game in a tournament win.
That regression is why I wouldn’t want Evans. The group this season all started with above average PER’s and Evans regressing from a below average PER is a recipe for a horrible season where he’s major detriment to the team. Evans PER from this season was similar Harris so if Evans duplicated that performance, that’s the bar and we all know how those conversations around Dejuan went.
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KU has been in contact with Drexel transfer Kobe Magee, who was 43% from 3 on a lot of attempts. Talented shooter with good size 6’6
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I haven’t seen his film and my only data point is today’s game. He was good today and statistically made a jump from year 1 to 2. I’m not sure what our plan is for the backcourt, if they plan to get another scorer next to Peterson or look for a backup type. He wouldn’t be the former
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Old friend Marcus Adams Jr in after a good yr at Cal St Northridge. Time to get him back?
Wasn’t the word on the street that he was bat shit crazy?
I was always intrigued because he lived down the street from my folks!
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
I haven’t seen his film and my only data point is today’s game. He was good today and statistically made a jump from year 1 to 2. I’m not sure what our plan is for the backcourt, if they plan to get another scorer next to Peterson or look for a backup type. He wouldn’t be the former
Even as a back up, his overall resume doesn’t impress me. In theory at PG, KU already has Jackson, Coit, and Shelby. Peterson can play on ball as well, but I think would be much better off the ball so I really don’t see Self in the market for a PG next season unless a top tier PG is begging to come to KU on a cheap NIL deal.
I could see Self going after a back up 2 if the staff doesn’t feel like McDowell is ready for that role this upcoming season or if he sees Passmore as a 3 more than a 2
A back up 5 is a must with Tiller’s setback.
We’ll see what happens with Griffen and Storr, but assuming they move on at this point which leaves Rakease Passmore on the wing right now. If Calderon does make it to KU, doubtful he’s ready to be an impact player from day 1, but possibly a back up.
To me, that means Self and staff will likely be focusing the vast majority of their portal recruit efforts at the 3 and 4 spots.
If the staff feels like they need a starting PG, Quimari Peterson from ETSU would be my choice, but it sounds like he’s might be Florida bound.
At the 3 and 4 as starters, names I would be interested in are Bryce Hopkins from Providence amd Nick Davidson from Nevada. There’s just not a lot of starting caliber 3’s and 4’s in the portal yet to me.
As a back up, Tyrell Ward from LSU wod be a solid addition at the 3, Cooper Koch from Iowa could be a nice back up 3
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Jalil Bethea in, another ole friend
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Noah Williamson from Bucknell, 7 footer averaged 17 and 7 and was patriot league poy. Made 52’s 3s the last two years so some range to go with size
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Jalil Bethea in, another ole friend
Hard pass, imo
Agree just mentioning
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Another ole friend in, Kyle Cuffe
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I haven’t seen one name that’s gotten me all giddy with excitement. Teams get lucky of course or like us this year bad luck happens. this year for us two transfers that seemed to be good really let us down, while one way exceeded expectations while two more were adequate for their backup roles. It’s just a crapshoot of a process that giveth and taketh.
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Certainly not a ton of firepower in yet but Monday starts the madness officially so we will see.
There will be a lot less vets in with all the covid stuff over. I think that’s a good thing and would hope we stay away from one year rentals.
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Jalil Bethea from Miami just enter the portal, he’s a guy I’d like to get.
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Some early “interest” targets if you can believe where it’s coming from…
Treysen Eaglestaff, Cooper Schweiger, Deuce Jones.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Some early “interest” targets if you can believe where it’s coming from…
Treysen Eaglestaff, Cooper Schweiger, Deuce Jones.
I’ve said my piece on Eaglestaff already. I could get on board with Schweiger, but what’s the appeal for Deuce Jones? A starting PG that averages under 3 assists per game?
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It’s early.
Also I continue to monitor Keyshawn Hall and PJ Haggerty. The price on Haggerty might be too stiff however.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
It’s early.
Also I continue to monitor Keyshawn Hall and PJ Haggerty. The price on Haggerty might be too stiff however.
Both are needed but can we afford…
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
It’s early.
Also I continue to monitor Keyshawn Hall and PJ Haggerty. The price on Haggerty might be too stiff however.
Both are needed but can we afford…
Yeah you have to quickly weigh what he offers for the cost vs other options and their cost. It’s tricky.
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This is a good thread by all you top tier bucketeers in the know about who we should get and who would be a good fit.
Im not in the know, but I agree that
- no more one year rentals
- we need real Athletes at targeted spots . It got tiring this year to see more tenacious athletic opponents shut down our guys in big games. (I was at the Arkansas/Kansas tourney game Thursday … they put a vise on us, shut Hunter down, and kept Mayo from getting the ball in space, etc, )
- we need guys who have something to prove and will BUY IN to team Kansas, and not just here for the $
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I say spend the money on Hagerty and Hall. Use the rest of the NIL on cheap bargain guys for depth
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
I say spend the money on Hagerty and Hall. Use the rest of the NIL on cheap bargain guys for depth
Theoretically you would have 4 top level guys with those 2.
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@BeddieKU23 Yes, if you assume Flory comes back and improves enough to be elite next year.
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 Yes, if you assume Flory comes back and improves enough to be elite next year.
Flory will be back and will average a double-double next season.
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I hope so. But either way, I would rather have a few elite guys than a lot of average guys.
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
I hope so. But either way, I would rather have a few elite guys than a lot of average guys.
Flory is not an average guy.
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I know this will come out like I’m talking out both sides of my mouth but , I will always be a Harris— & Adams fan they put out all the time true Hawks BUT having time to really think about things it will be nice & refreshing-- for a fresh start.
Think we just HAVE to be able to find and bring in couple big men , guys that are much better athletic-- better athleticism, mobile fluid. Big’s that can really stretch the floor- -Also true also for some Athletic wings.
Bottom line just GOT TO have better mobile athletic players just a must
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 Yes, if you assume Flory comes back and improves enough to be elite next year.
Flory will be back and will average a double-double next season.
Low concern currently but his camp is listening to offers apparently
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@BeddieKU23 I think the only possibility of Flory leaving might be if Coach Self Leaves I think
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I wouldn’t discount other factors but would hope that’s the case
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Flory has the ability to be special but he is very raw right now.
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Diggy might not return, we shall see. Rumor is he wants guarantees and perhaps a pay raise. I don’t think either of those things are going to happen here if true
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@BeddieKU23 I heard he wants more playing time for his “senior” year.
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@BeddieKU23 I don’t think he would be getting any raise. decent enough job coming off the bench but just don’t believe that will happen , so looks like possibly Another spot open
