The portal.
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@BShark fair. I find stats often have a scoping issue. With a couple more filters, like rebounds in close games, or when games are close, we might see effort shine through more, would be curious how that stacks up to “when behind” and “when ahead”. Also, if we broke the season up into quarters, feel like we well apart at the end.
But i think youre absolutely right that there was an athleticism gap.
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@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I’m ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I’m ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
I really like the Melvin Council guy Bossi put up on the other board. Can run, can defend, and finishes at the rim super well.
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@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I’m ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
I really like the Melvin Council guy Bossi put up on the other board. Can run, can defend, and finishes at the rim super well.
Yeah seems like a decent defender as well. His shot is not great, film wise it looked like he could at least hit an open one at 30% clip or so… Alarming was his ability to get into the lane with his athleticism and having such a low FT% rate. You’d expect someone who gets downhill to get to the line more. He also was like 31% on drives then end up in midrange shots. I’d like him as another rotation piece but not a starter. I really think we need another sure-fire dude that can complement Peterson. I did like his size, athleticism and quickness. Transitioned to PG spot and showed pretty decent ball skills and passing ability out of pick and roll. I guess he’s a wildcard, he’s got some traits that really fit here, some weaknesses that I don’t think get any easier stepping up in competition level that are concerning enough to wonder about what role you ultimately would want him in.
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@Kcmatt7 looks like a million spam posts on his x from providence fans. I added a Jayhawk to the mix
https://x.com/melvincounciljr/status/1905623928015376475
Lmk if i got the wrong Council
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@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I’m ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
I really like the Melvin Council guy Bossi put up on the other board. Can run, can defend, and finishes at the rim super well.
My goat is getting back to his roots.
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Do we read this guy? Council was on his radar https://www.kansan.com/sports/portalnomics-where-might-kansas-basketball-find-the-next-marcus-garrett/article_697df361-a215-4c0d-b0bd-ed1aa73f01f2.html
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A nice breakdown of a few players. Council I think is a floor raiser but not a ceiling raiser here. Still need an additional “star” type player to play with Peterson.
I am wondering if Council is a bit of a value play in regards to NIL, not sure of his market but perhaps getting him still allows the budget to throw big money at a star Wing and backup big.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@dylans said in The portal.:
@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
No doubt they are well rounded. But look at that Duke game. They had 18 ORs on the tallest team in the nation! And for the game they had 11 total rebs more than Duke.
I bet if they can create 18 ORs on Florida tonight they will take home the trophy!
It’s as if rebounding is important. Wish someone would’ve beat that into this last KU team!
KU was in the top 30 nationally in rebounds per game? Top 10 in defensive rebounding. Last year’s team had a lot of issues but they did rebound. I think one of the biggest issues was the fact that they just did not get to the FT line. That screams a lack of athleticism to me. They also fouled a lot, which same deal.
KU was 67th is rebounding margin, more important than the gross number of rebounds is the positive net. Ku grabbed 38.5 rebounds to the opponents 34.7. KU was not a good rebounding team there just were a bunch of rebounds to be had (poor shooting? pace of play?). I contend if KJ could rebound, (5 per game Zeke had 4.8) KU would’ve been a lot better.
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I can definitely see the Garrett comp with Council. Good rebounding numbers, assists (2.3 ast/to rate), steals, career 77% at the line. Played a ton of minutes for the bonnies (37.1 per game).
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If he can defend like Garrett that alone is good enough for me.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I’m ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
I really like the Melvin Council guy Bossi put up on the other board. Can run, can defend, and finishes at the rim super well.
Yeah seems like a decent defender as well. His shot is not great, film wise it looked like he could at least hit an open one at 30% clip or so… Alarming was his ability to get into the lane with his athleticism and having such a low FT% rate. You’d expect someone who gets downhill to get to the line more. He also was like 31% on drives then end up in midrange shots. I’d like him as another rotation piece but not a starter. I really think we need another sure-fire dude that can complement Peterson. I did like his size, athleticism and quickness. Transitioned to PG spot and showed pretty decent ball skills and passing ability out of pick and roll. I guess he’s a wildcard, he’s got some traits that really fit here, some weaknesses that I don’t think get any easier stepping up in competition level that are concerning enough to wonder about what role you ultimately would want him in.
I don’t disagree. He has his warts. I think that ends up being the type of guy who gets 25 minutes a game because he can play the 1-4 and defend the opponents best player. Ultimately, I think the best thing about him was how well he scores in transition, and how well he takes care of the ball. Low TO%, high Assist %, plays fantastic D, and brings energy. He also seems like he would have an additional 2 years of eligibility I think?
You’re still looking for a proven guy to add to the perimeter no doubt.
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
If he can defend like Garrett that alone is good enough for me.
More steals per advanced stats than MG. He would be a menace. And I think* he is someone opponents at least have to defend. His FT% at the very least points to a guy who should be able to shoot better than .300 from 3.
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I’m warming up to him, I was hoping we’d get a playmaking combo guard that was solid from all 3 levels but obviously those are expensive and who knows what our budget looks like after having to pay Flory. If he could get above that 30% from 3 and be respected by defenses, then I’m fine with it because I think his value in a lot of other areas is a hit. I just can’t go another season watching us having starters out there that are not 3 level threats in the 1-4 positions. It’s going to take years to get over that I think. I know he’s made 71 3’s in two years but 26 and 29% is not going to cut it at this level.
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Council is the downhill guy. Get it done Bill.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Council is the downhill guy. Get it done Bill.
Really I just like him for the defense and versatility. Glue guy.
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@approxinfinity I think he’s already drawing social security so he wouldn’t need NIL $$.
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@kuballin10 Sweet Sixteen, huh? You’re setting the bar pretty high.
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Watching the Locked on Jay Hawks pod cast , and talking about how good a fit Rodney Rice would be with Darryn. Not a guy would demands having the ball in his hands, averaged 13.8 shoot 43 % from the field , just over 37 % from the three - -81 % free throw his on/off eff was really good as with him on was a plus 19- - dam good, now was not quite as good on defensive end minus 5- - was 77 percentile in his three point shooting— -in three pint efficiently was 84 % - -and a guy who just didn’t turn the ball over - in the 92 % efficiently would be a nice fit with Darryn- - a 6’4 kid could classify him as a shooting Guard can play some PG -combo guard , pretty nice
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@drgnslayr yeah. I am amazed watching them rebound. Its beautiful. When a shot goes up, layers of guys fold in from the sides and half the distance to the opposing player who isnt trying as hard. Some possessions i became suspicious that they seemed to care less about making the shot than rebounding… just throw it toward the rim and someone will get it!
YES! When I was 10 years old I wore a mouthguard in league play. I love how Houston actually puts effort into rebounding. Almost any other school who claims to do the same… bs… after watching Houston really do it.
What a tough loss. Florida was tough, too!
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Yeah his game is nice however it doesn’t sound like KU has made a dent in that recruitment, if they are. There’s still a prevailing thought he’s window dressing others just to drive price up to end at Nova with his coach. We shall see.
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I’m sure to get some hate for this… but here goes…
What about snagging Quincy Ballard? He’s listed at 6’11" and he is every bit of that. I believe he is over 7’. I’ve met him several times. He’s “besties” with my son (sort of).
First… surely he can be landed with a minimum hit on NIL. I read where WSU is upside down in NIL now.
Second… though he is limited to shots under the basket, pretty much like Flory, he’s a solid post presence. His numbers were pretty good on a team that struggle to breath oxygen last year.
If we every wanted to “play big” the combo of him with Flory would be nuts. Give our coaching staff a lesson in low post screens. They could use it regardless if we landed him or not. I’ve been pretty amazed this year how many college post players set low post screens for driving guards… something KU has NEVER DONE! Imagine a beast like Ballard setting a single or double low post screen for a driving Peterson!
I know on paper we need a big who can stretch the floor. I’m not convinced those guys are out there and I’m getting pretty sick of running offense for bigs bricking up treys. I still feel like the biggest mistake we made the last two years was playing Hunter at the top of the key.
Okay… I’m done… blast away on my post!
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Diggy to Maryland, apparently got a nice payday
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Quintance to Kentucky. Rumor is 3 million… Yikes
UK also landed Dioubate from Bama who would have been nice at the 4 spot…
UK so far is king of the portal on paper it looks
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@drgnslayr A stretch big at the 5 is a little overrated IMO. Can be nice to have but I’d rather play a center that can set a good screen and get downhill off a P&R to pressure the rim.
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@MR11 said in The portal.:
@drgnslayr A stretch big at the 5 is a little overrated IMO. Can be nice to have but I’d rather play a center that can set a good screen and get downhill off a P&R to pressure the rim.
I love a good rim protector. Get me a guy who can force bad shots & create turnovers/runouts the other way. Then all he has to do on O is set screens and catch lobs.
Basically I just want Doke.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Quintance to Kentucky. Rumor is 3 million… Yikes
UK also landed Dioubate from Bama who would have been nice at the 4 spot…
UK so far is king of the portal on paper it looks
Quaintance is coming off a torn ACL in late February. Best case scenario is he’s ready for the opening of camp in October, worst case is he’s out through non-conference play. UK is gambling a bit there with his health.
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Yeah… you and me both… and every D1 school! Wish he was out there. Ballard does not have the presence of Doke… but we are picking through bones.
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We are currently ranked 15th for next year but another big guy and outside shooter would move us up.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in The portal.:
Anybody hear where our transfers are going? Kinda wondered what their worth is since Coach turned down some offers of theirs to stay for more
Haven’t asked on some in awhile but last I heard
Diggy - Maryland
Rylan - Bama/Texas Tech
Kease - Miami/Bama/Auburn
Storr - Washington/SMU
Diggy
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Virginia is in the mix for Kease now
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That will be Flory next year. Just needs some weight and seasoning
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Council should visit this week
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The fans who didn’t understand DaJuan definitely won’t understand Council either (insert laughing emoji)
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(this one)
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@Zabudda the further down the line we are the better. #1 hasn’t worked out well the past couple of years.
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@Zabudda these things are just chatting gossip right now, but for sure hear you. I read earlier on the way to Early that -Houston # w- - -Texas Tech # 4 - - KU -# 6 - - -BYU- # 8-- - &- -Arizona # 18-- kinda makes you laugh, how can they possibly put a ranking this early of any kind
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
The fans who didn’t understand DaJuan definitely won’t understand Council either (insert laughing emoji)
I think it will depend on the minutes played lol. People loved Marcus Garrett, until they didn’t.
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I love the Tyshawn comp for this kid. Slightly worse shooter, but turns it over less.
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The stuff I’ve heard about the kid off the court makes me want him in this program. You need kids like that to succeed.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
I love the Tyshawn comp for this kid. Slightly worse shooter, but turns it over less.
Also a good comp from an athleticism standpoint.
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@TYOHawk What have you heard about him off the court?
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk What have you heard about him off the court?
Leader, competitive, fiery kid and excuse my language but he gives a damn.
After what I just watched for 30 plus games…sign me up for that. No more smiling after mistakes or players wilting as soon as things get tough.
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk What have you heard about him off the court?
Leader, competitive, fiery kid and excuse my language but he gives a damn.
After what I just watched for 30 plus games…sign me up for that. No more smiling after mistakes or players wilting as soon as things get tough.
Bonnie fans called him the marathon man because he never took himself out of the games man. ABSOLUTE DOG.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk What have you heard about him off the court?
Leader, competitive, fiery kid and excuse my language but he gives a damn.
After what I just watched for 30 plus games…sign me up for that. No more smiling after mistakes or players wilting as soon as things get tough.
Bonnie fans called him the marathon man because he never took himself out of the games man. ABSOLUTE DOG.
I want to go to war with that kid on my side. When you go play Arizona, Houston, Iowa State or little bro I want kids like that on my team.
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Is there any place I can get a thoughtful ranking of the commit + transfer classes for ncaam?
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I don’t know how thoughtful it is but there is this:
https://247sports.com/season/2025-basketball/transferportaltop/
and this:
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@Jhawk69 I personally really like evanmiya and torvik for the analytics approach compared to the vibes of 247/on3 etc but all data points are at least interesting.
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Probably too expensive but Jamir Watkins come on down…
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Council released a top 4
KU, Miss St, UGA, Gtech
