The portal.
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From TOS, the question was raised. With the players that have entered the portal , why are they ignoring KU ? - Poster answered – - Portal is a week old , and could be because of the uncertainty of the Coach.-- Do we think this is valid point ?
Does Coach Self need to come out and flat out make it perfectly clear about his future for the upcoming Season ?
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Henry Veesaar from Arizona in the portal- --Any Interest ?-- —K J Lewis from Arizona in the Portal from Arizona- - —Any interest ? – I think I would have to reach out for KJ if it were up to me .- Interest anybody ?
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Just heard this, ha ANYONE else heard whispers, rumblings of this at all ?- —A J Storr is coming back nnd that his girlfriend played a huge role in this decision.–Anybody else seen anything about this anywhere ?
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Sounds like some major fundraising was done recently. Self and Goff took a fundraising trip down to Texas together. Had to improve the NIL situation with recent changes to the transfer market.
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@SlimShaddy54 Vesaar abused Dickinson fwiw
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@Jhawk69 did he sr night?
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Sr night, Hunter had 33 pts, az big had 5, 14 mins, 4 fouls
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Big 12 tournament
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I know. Just saying.
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AJ did improve, I would’ve started him over Rylan 2nd half of the Arky game. Rylan was a zero across the board, I think. AJ was aggressive!
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@Jhawk69 yes he did would be nice.- -think I would like to take a shot at K J Lewis too–very quality athlete
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@nuleafjhawk said in The portal.:
@dylans I watch the NFL also (mostly the Chiefs) and it doesn’t bother me. Why? Because they mostly have gone to college, got a job and are getting paid because they were deemed worthy to play in the NFL. College is different (in my mind) - they haven’t paid their dues. They’re just money hungry little punks, most of whom will never set foot in a professional sports arena.
I wonder why someone else earning money bothers some? As you say, “most will never be able to set foot in a professional sports arena” and get paid. Meanwhile the program is making millions off of their backs. I don’t mind them maximizing what they get paid in what is a very short earning window in their life. I just would like some stability too. Both can be achieved with better structure.
Paying dues… I get the premise, but longer tenure doesn’t mean better at your job. Sometimes quite the opposite. Most geniuses have made their impact by 27 - this is the same, but physical genius instead of intellectual.
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“If you don’t want problems, don’t recruit them. I don’t recruit entitlement kids. There is no way that I recruit a kid unless I know that he will buy into the way we do things.”
Great teams don’t have passengers. This isn’t a ride, it’s a responsibility.
Coach Sampson
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@dylans I’ll tell you why I don’t like them making money. Because I’m old and old school. In my world, college kids get free room and board, free tuition and a free education. That’s enough. It’s more than enough. Believe what you want to but money will destroy college sports. I’ll guarantee you that I’m not the only one who feels this way.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Sounds like some major fundraising was done recently. Self and Goff took a fundraising trip down to Texas together. Had to improve the NIL situation with recent changes to the transfer market.
When are they going to use it!!
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An intriguing name in the portal today, Ernest Udeh. With KU’s needs in the post, this would someone who’s obviously familiar with the system so there wouldn’t be the learning curve that there is with other players. He’s never developed into much of an offensive threat, but has become a pretty good defender.
I don’t know that Udeh would have any interest in coming back to KU, but I would at least make that phone call and see.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 what would we have to guarantee him? He started at tcu.
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@Woodrow said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Sounds like some major fundraising was done recently. Self and Goff took a fundraising trip down to Texas together. Had to improve the NIL situation with recent changes to the transfer market.
When are they going to use it!!
Hopefully soon! XD
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I’d anticipate news of visits this week
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in The portal.:
@Texas-Hawk-10 what would we have to guarantee him? He started at tcu.
Who do we have now at the 5? If he wanted to come back, he’d be the starting 5 next season.
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@nuleafjhawk couldn’t agree more it already has destroyed basket ball. Like you said they already getting free ride, free room and board free education I mean hell . There is no such thing as College Basket ball anymore , just like a minor farm system for the NBA anymore
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
I’d anticipate news of visits this week
I’m anticipating a visitor tomorrow.
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The one thing the portal has definitely exposed is the self-aggrandizing egos some of these average players have. They ALL bolt, and programs are stuck trying to build teams around a bunch of selfish quitters instead of those chuds staying where they probably fit into a thought-out balanced roster originally.
I need to back away from this for a while. I’m just intensely irritated by the way this has played out for the past decade with Selby/Alexander/Silvio etc. and all that nothingness. There is no purpose for the NCAA at this point, and they brought it on themselves.
Jaybate… I’m probably heading to where you are (assuming you are still alive and happy). You were right.
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looks like a new name on the board kid named Corbin Allen- -6’4 Sg ehhh.
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Peterson is playing, now. Espn. Smooth
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Storr could return,I’d still call it unlikely.
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@BShark yeah he checked his NIL value and was like nah I’m good lol
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@DanR eh. Lets see. This season was high expectations and low results. Maybe next will be the opposite.
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If Storr comes back we’d better not pay him even half of what we paid him last season.
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@nuleafjhawk said in The portal.:
@dylans I’ll tell you why I don’t like them making money. Because I’m old and old school. In my world, college kids get free room and board, free tuition and a free education. That’s enough. It’s more than enough. Believe what you want to but money will destroy college sports. I’ll guarantee you that I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Oh I mostly fall into feeling that way too. It’s just not an easily defensible position given introspection. Scholarship’s for players only seems like enough because we had to pay our own way or earn it thru academics which isn’t celebrated. If I did anything that drew 15,300 people and a tv crew to boot, I’d want paid too! If you really want to get disgusted look up Internet personalities salaries. But I digress.
College basketball is ruined because the foundation was based upon indentured servants who have broken free. Now the structure is inadequate because the NCAA couldn’t fathom paying for their labor and the ramifications of doing so. Poor leadership is a poor reason to not pay for their labor.
The portal plays into the madness. Free transfers with a bidding war for services and no salary cap. What could ever go wrong? I hate it, but it was inevitable.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
That’s what a GM in college does. They manage the NIL side of the program. Part of that includes communication with parents/handlers in regards to NIL stuff. The head coach still has final say on everything, but a GM deals with all the NIL stuff related to a program.
Well, if Self was cool on the idea of having a GM, this situation might warm him up a bit.
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@DanR eh. Lets see. This season was high expectations and low results. Maybe next will be the opposite.
Darryn and the miracles. We ride.
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Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
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You can do a lot with $3m.
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@FarmerJayhawk I’m assuming we’re out?
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@Crimsonorblue22 stranger things have happened but it would be a massive surprise
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@FarmerJayhawk - To clarify, you believe Flory is going with Pearl?
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He’s coming
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Storr could return,I’d still call it unlikely.
What a plot twist
The talk is he wants to return at this point and that Bill is mulling it over.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Storr could return,I’d still call it unlikely.
What a plot twist
The talk is he wants to return at this point and that Bill is mulling it over.
Gonna keep it real…I’m not opposed to it.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
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@TYOHawk @BShark Bill said several times that AJ had a positive attitude. AJ got visibly better 2nd half. Had 2 of his best games late, including a tourney game where he was critical. Bill had him in the post game presser one of those games All signs point up, imo, unless its all for show.
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I’m generally against running players that want to be here, have the potential to make an impact, and are putting in the work. Idk if the later is true but am here for him staying if he has bought in and accepts a lower role/NIL
He shouldn’t scare anyone off from coming to KU so don’t know that it hurts us too much even if he doesn’t improve on last year.
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@dylans said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
Maybe. Supposedly. Depends on outside revenue streams. I’m not sure if NIL will 100% fall under that umbrella or if it’s just a second pot of gold for the players. 20.5 mil for all sports in total seems like less than is being spent currently.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@dylans said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
Maybe. Supposedly. Depends on outside revenue streams. I’m not sure if NIL will 100% fall under that umbrella or if it’s just a second pot of gold for the players. 20.5 mil for all sports in total seems like less than is being spent currently.
NIL deals will have to be cleared by the NCAA now going forward. Has to be “legitimate” like the kid actually does something for the money. Makes an appearance etc
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@BShark will it cap the earnings? Appearance fees can be very high if not.
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Does anyone have the Site " The Phog " that knows who Swain says we need to be keeping a close eye on a kid in the portal- - it’s behind the VIP wall so don’t know the kids name or position.- -Anyone know who it is ?
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@BShark will it cap the earnings? Appearance fees can be very high if not.
That I do not know.
