The portal.
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Add your entries you hear about that are interesting.
I’ll start, Owen Freeman, Iowa big, 17 points, 7 boards. No clue how his game checks out for us, but I saw him win a state championship in Illinois too, and was intrigued.
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@wissox Good player, but not a good fit for KU. He can’t play the 4 so it’d be a choice between him or Flory and I’d rather have Flory. Also, the schools involved with him are Arkansas, Creighton, Gonzaga, and Michigan.
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A player I would be interested in pursuing should he enter the portal would be Minnesota’s Frank Mitchell.
He hasn’t entered yet, but with a coaching change and pretty much everyone else on Minnesota being out of eligibility, I would be surprised if he didn’t enter the portal.
Miller isn’t someone to pursue with expectations of him starting, but would be an ideal back up for Flory IMO. Averaged 5 and 5 on 66% shooting in 16 mpg this season. He began his career at Canisius and led the MAAC in rebounding a couple of years ago.
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247 expects KU to kick the tires on Freeman. Would be fools not to
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@BeddieKU23 Any thoughts on kids from the BIG who averaged 17 a game coming to KU?
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@wissox If it’s on high shot volume - pass. Hard pass. Do not pass go, go straight to jail.
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Well he’s not a good defender so that’s a big limitation but offensively he’s better then Flory. It sounds like there’s a few programs already in the drivers seat and KU isn’t one of them.
As we know anything coming from Fran’s system is a big question mark defensively since they don’t teach it.
I’m sure he’s not anything like Storr character wise.
Dix is intriguing as a shooter from them but same deal, good on one side only
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The Simpkins twins from Elon are in the portal.
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Raw is ok, limited on one end isnt, imo
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The advanced numbers for the Iowa players isn’t as bad as you would think. Both are better than Griffen, Storr, Mayo, or Coit’s advanced numbers before coming to KU.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
The advanced numbers for the Iowa players isn’t as bad as you would think. Both are better than Griffen, Storr, Mayo, or Coit’s advanced numbers before coming to KU.
I like Josh Dix if we are eye balling a sharp shooter replacement if Rylan leaves. That said I really like the idea of Bill getting back to his roots. Get players that are multi-faceted. Guys willing to defend and rebound that can drive to score.
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That really seems to be where the focus needs to go this offseason. I think if we are targeting starters- you need more complete skill sets to play under Self. If we are looking for rotation guys, then a shooter who might struggle in other areas is fine. Moss, JCL filled these roles great in the past but they weren’t full time starters where their weaknesses would be exposed as much as we’ve seen with Timberlake and Griffen/Storr the last two years.
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Noticed that Freeman’s HS and Iowa teammate Brock harding is also in the portal. The two of them were great in hs, not sure if Brock is KU quality.
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This may guide our discussions. I suppose it’ll blow up after this weekend is over and most teams seasons are over.
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Wyoming transfer Obi Agbim fits the bill. However wouldn’t be surprised if Texas Tech had the inside track here.
Quimari Peterson from ETSU, So Con POY shot 42% from 3 avg 19 per game. Indiana native.
Milos Illic from Loyola Md
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
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I would not be upset at getting some mid-major guys and seeing what happens. Of course you need to find the right fits but look across so many teams that have mid-major guys that transferred up and the success they are having. Do they come hungrier to prove themselves with the step up? There’s got to be a way for KU to figure this out.
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I’d be fine with very few transfers and gutting it out for a bit forming a team that is cohesive and grows together. But that’s not going to happen - no instant gratification.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Stretch bigs right? Like guys for rebounding and shooting at least. We aren’t trying to add another footer to go next to Flory/Tiller right?
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@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Stretch bigs right? Like guys for rebounding and shooting at least. We aren’t trying to add another footer to go next to Flory/Tiller right?
I’ve heard Bill wants to add 3 bigs do with this information what you will. That would mean 5 on the roster.
Sounds like actual bigs too, like not focused on big guards at that spot. Bill on his shit.
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I think he wants to run 4 bigs with Peterson. double high low.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
I’d be fine with very few transfers and gutting it out for a bit forming a team that is cohesive and grows together. But that’s not going to happen - no instant gratification.
If everyone returned that could and both HS kids make it in, you still need 3 more players to fill the roster. I think realistically they are going to add 5-6 players this offseason whether transfer or HS
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Nevada Jr big 6’10 Nick Davidson available. Avg 15 ppg, 6.5 boards, shot 37% from 3 (46/124) & avg nearly 3 assists per game. Haven’t looked at film but decent advanced stats on him. Had nine 20 + point games this season
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Will mention UNLV guard transfer Dedan Thomas, talented but rumored to have a destination already (Houston).
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@BeddieKU23 I personally do not care about numbers or short term wins. There could be enough HS recruited players on the roster to field a team of that was the goal. It clearly isn’t. Lateral level transfers suck. I’m fine with guys like Zeke that wanted KU initially and had to earn it, but the free agent hires suck. No heart and still limited or they’d be in the NBA.
I know this is not how it works.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Will mention UNLV guard transfer Dedan Thomas, talented but rumored to have a destination already (Houston).
Yeah Houston lock. His mom wanted him there last year but his dad wanted him to stay at UNLV. Now UNLV has no money therefore
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Seems like one we should be in on, KS kid. 2 years left with big production. Rebounding and rim protection there too
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I agree it’s not as much fun with how it is now. There are coaches out there having success with lateral transfers and obviously some that are not. I would say Self has seen a mixed bag so far. Hunter, Mayo, McCullar could be seen as individual successes but hasn’t led to the most successful team seasons. UConn had 3 important transfers on their squad last year during their title run and two of them were on the team during the 22-23 title as well for context of it being successful.
All the 1 Seeds in the tournament have transfers driving their success. Perhaps Duke is the only one of the 4 where it’s not as big of an impact with their star freshman. Sion James is still an important factor for them, and they get great rotation play from Gillis and Brown (when healthy). Houston- Cryer, Uzan, Wilson; Florida- Clayton, Richard, Martin; Auburn- Broome, Baker-Mazara, Kelly, Jones.
The common theme with many of them is they transferred into their current school with multiple years to play. I think that’s a key thing to potentially look at with the portal. Do you really want a 1-year rental or do you go after guys that you can develop for a couple years. Of all the names listed above, 4 are 1-year guys and 2 of them are from Duke alone. Several came from mid-majors that had multiple years like (Broome- NPOY candidate) & Florida’s top 2 scorers.
I would stay away from the 1-year rentals as foundational parts of a team unless you have no choice. There’s a bunch of talent entering the portal already that are young and can be developed at a school like KU. Personally, would like to see us fill the open spots with young talent that can be developed to become the foundation of future years.
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@wissox Iowa also is losing Price Sandfort and de-commit Joshua Lewis
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Seems like one we should be in on, KS kid. 2 years left with big production. Rebounding and rim protection there too
We are in contact
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Listening to an Iowa podcast and they said that the name that was being tossed around a lot was KU for Freeman
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Stretch bigs right? Like guys for rebounding and shooting at least. We aren’t trying to add another footer to go next to Flory/Tiller right?
I’ve heard Bill wants to add 3 bigs do with this information what you will. That would mean 5 on the roster.
Sounds like actual bigs too, like not focused on big guards at that spot. Bill on his shit.
Welp. Okay.
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@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Stretch bigs right? Like guys for rebounding and shooting at least. We aren’t trying to add another footer to go next to Flory/Tiller right?
I’ve heard Bill wants to add 3 bigs do with this information what you will. That would mean 5 on the roster.
Sounds like actual bigs too, like not focused on big guards at that spot. Bill on his shit.
Welp. Okay.
I know …
Couldn’t believe it when I heard. The other stuff I heard was good. Interested to see the final roster.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Valpo freshman All Wright, yes that’s his name. Very talented kid. I would definitely go after him
Keep a close eye on the other Valpo transfer Cooper Schwieger. From Overland Park and Bill wants to add a lot of bigs.
Stretch bigs right? Like guys for rebounding and shooting at least. We aren’t trying to add another footer to go next to Flory/Tiller right?
I’ve heard Bill wants to add 3 bigs do with this information what you will. That would mean 5 on the roster.
Sounds like actual bigs too, like not focused on big guards at that spot. Bill on his shit.
Welp. Okay.
I know …
Couldn’t believe it when I heard. The other stuff I heard was good. Interested to see the final roster.
I’m not overly worried. I think DP and Flory are two good cornerstones. I think Tiller as the backup 5 is solid. Diggy back will be nice. Would love to see Passmore take a big leap.
I, personally, would be okay having Griffen come back if that ship hasn’t sailed yet. A 2nd year under Bill will do him wonders I think. But I also get it if both parties want to move on.
Can Moore get a redshirt, and is he willing to come back? I don’t hate having him on the roster.
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@Kcmatt7 Moore shouldn’t be able to but at this point…apply anyway and get grumpy with the NCAA.
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We need bigs outside Flory and with Tiller having surgery and being out even longer now I think it’s smart that they are trying to have at least 4-5 guys in the room. We shall see if that happens.
I agree Griffen is worth kicking the tires on if he will stay however about a few weeks ago it was expected he was leaving.
Jackson being a player after the year off and anything from Mari after the same would be great.
There’s just so much unknown about next yr, it will be the most uncertainty we have faced in 20 plus years by far
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Malik Reneau
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Malik Reneau
Don’t see the fit here. Can’t shoot 3’s so if he’s a 4, it’s the same issues in offense as the last 2 years and doubt he’d be willing to back up Flory.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Malik Reneau
Of course bill wants a limited post up big he just can’t help himself
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Definitely not a fit for what we need
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I’d be pleasantly surprised if we don’t contact him…
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The only thing I’ll say is the guy put up 13 and 6 in 23 minutes. I don’t get the fit necessarily but I also wouldn’t be upset.
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I think some people are going to be really disappointed by what we go after at the 4 spot if what I’ve heard is true.
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I think I’ll retract what I said about fit with Reneau. Don’t know why he went 12% from 3 this year after shooting 33% from 3 as a soph including a couple makes against KU that year. He is bigger, is skilled on offense and boards good enough. He’d take a lot of pressure off Flory in the post. I know we have familiarity with him from High School. If we are not going to get a shooter at the 4, I want someone with more size, more offensive skill and rebounding ability then we got from KJ. Renau is going to check all 3 of those boxes.
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@BShark oh man, I might have to start a wisconsin badgers category and follow them as well from day one with @wissox to keep my sanity next year
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He hasn’t entered yet but be kind of interesting to see what happens w were in on him from high School and that would be Bryson Tucker top 30 High Schol prospect. Was watching podcast he went to Indiana ?- – might be worth taking another look at
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So if Bill wants to go the route of more Bigs which has been hinted at , there goes any thoughts of run , run , and run some more
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I’m also wondering about him too but man his shooting splits are awful, 37% from the field, 15% from 3. Must have gotten injured as well since didn’t play from mid-February on. Still lots of room to improve but you’d ideally need to get him on the cheap which was not the case during his HS recruitment.
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While we are down the Indiana Roster Rabbit-Hole, man look at Mackenzie Mgbako’s stats through two years, another player that almost was a Jayhawk initially.
His stats are almost identical from freshman to soph year & I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like it. 3pt fg%, FT%, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, turnovers and ppg are almost identical its scary. Minutes per game, FG%, Field Goals attempted per game, fouls per game saw very slight changes. It’s like he repeated the year exactly. How’s that for consistency…
