The portal.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
One to monitor
Things are heating up and could hear news in the next few days
Sounds like logistics are being worked here, eligibility etc. Promising that it sounds like he’s gonna be a Hawk
Does he have a Darnell Jackson vibe to him? Not super springy, but hustles and works hard lower to the ground?
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Yeah good backup option, old as well (22). Hes a bruiser we desperately need
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Boy oh boy would I like to add a few warm bodies to the roster
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Yeah it’s just transcript issues with Dessert. My sister was responsible for transcript evals when she was in athletics and always said international SAs were pains in the ass to get cleared.
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This is a big one (literally) if they can get all the logistics in order. I think this is the biggest remaining need to ensure this team has enough front court depth + he’s going to have a good-sized role.
Another Wing Shooter is still priority 1A, but they may have to live with what they got. Perhaps they get lucky shaking the trees this summer as we’ve seen Coit/Furphy join the team late in the last two years and have impacts.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
This is a big one (literally) if they can get all the logistics in order. I think this is the biggest remaining need to ensure this team has enough front court depth + he’s going to have a good-sized role.
Another Wing Shooter is still priority 1A, but they may have to live with what they got. Perhaps they get lucky shaking the trees this summer as we’ve seen Coit/Furphy join the team late in the last two years and have impacts.
Reporter for 247 quoted HCBS as saying we needed to add a 15ppg wing (3/4) to “have a complete roster.”
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@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
This is a big one (literally) if they can get all the logistics in order. I think this is the biggest remaining need to ensure this team has enough front court depth + he’s going to have a good-sized role.
Another Wing Shooter is still priority 1A, but they may have to live with what they got. Perhaps they get lucky shaking the trees this summer as we’ve seen Coit/Furphy join the team late in the last two years and have impacts.
Reporter for 247 quoted HCBS as saying we needed to add a 15ppg wing (3/4) to “have a complete roster.”
He did say that, they tried to get that from Sarr and Williams but didn’t have the NIL funds to win out. Now they are likely getting Dessert who probably is going to take a significant amount of that NIL pool. I doubt there’s funds to get that 15ppg scorer and given what NIL it takes to get top level guys we may be done after this one. Of course everything is still fluid, perhaps there’s an international player with a price range where Self can shake a booster tree one more time but I wouldn’t count on it as of today…
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Cant we defer payment or something? Sign it in blood? I remain skeptical that money is the issue.
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Vernon is reporting the Student Visa thing could also be part of the hold up on Dessert @mayjay but who knows, he’s not a trustworthy source.
Pat Suemnick is still another potential addition that visited for front court depth. I’d take both if we can afford it.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Vernon is reporting the Student Visa thing could also be part of the hold up on Dessert @mayjay but who knows, he’s not a trustworthy source.
Pat Suemnick is still another potential addition that visited for front court depth. I’d take both if we can afford it.
We don’t need both Dessert and Suemnick. Suemnick is nothing but a warm body. There is the possibility that judge overseeing this process could grandfather in walk ons not counting against roster limits per Swain at the Phog.
“Now, there are questions about walk-ons and how those spots will be handled. The House Settlement was initially going to limit roster spots and opportunities for walk-ons. But, the judge overseeing the settlement has made grandfathering in walk-ons a priority. If the walk-ons are grandfathered in, it would allow players like Wilder Evers and Justin Cross to remain on the roster without counting against a roster limit spot.”
If the judge ends up grand fathering in walk ons, then Suemnick is fine to add.
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I was listening to the Jay Hawk Slant podcast last night and they were talking about foot ball recruiting and Basketball recruiting and portal updates.
Shay Bedore ( I know the last name spelling isn’t right ) but you know who I mean. Shay one of the insiders usually pretty good said a source had told him a France Big Man 6’11 & 245 by the Name of Bryon Sassaar ( I’ don’t know for sure the last name-- -BUT he had been told this was a guy for sure to keep an eye on as he was trending towards KU pretty quickly- -guessing us & Auburn, but said he was trending towards Ku pretty hard I dunno, but might be our back up for Flory - we shall see.
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@SlimShaddy54 struggling to find info on him. Got a link?
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I love how we are recruiting only backup bigs and not starting wings
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
I love how we are recruiting only backup bigs and not starting wings
To be fair I don’t think too many starting wings are available in June.
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@approxinfinity No buddy I sure don’t. All I got was from the KU podcast itself.- -Yet I truly apologize to ALL KU fans I’m so behind as I didn’t even realize that Dessert was a five, and I think getting Dessert would BY FAR be better then the one I mentioned but sounds like might be some mutual interest.
Looking at Dessert stats is crazy, --Seven footer- —has a 7’4 wing span – -and 9’3 standing reach- - -Doke measured something like 9’1 standing reach Have to agree has to be a typo as the only negative thing if true would be is Dessert had only an EIGHTEEN Inch standing explosion- – that CAN’T BE RIGHT , fricken Dickinson had or was in the Twenties standing and Dessert only has an EIGHTEEN ? Na that can;t be right
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@TYOHawk Yeah but we should at least be shooting our shot with some international prospects. Maybe we are and there just isnt any smoke about it
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Any of these guys still on our radar? https://www.si.com/college/kansas/basketball/five-players-bill-self-and-kansas-can-still-add-to-the-jayhawks-roster
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
Any of these guys still on our radar? https://www.si.com/college/kansas/basketball/five-players-bill-self-and-kansas-can-still-add-to-the-jayhawks-roster
Rosario would have to reclassify and is a Nike product whose stock is rising a bit, but would still be a back up at best at KU next season.
Ven-Allen Lubin committed to NC State earlier this week.
KU appears out of the running for Claude as they haven’t really been connected to him for a few weeks now.
See previous conversation on Suemnick, but he’s nothing more than a practice player.
Ivan Bogdonvic is the name from that list to watch. The other names, not in that article, but also from SI are Ognjen Stankovic and Luka Skoric. All 3 are 6-8 or 6-9 wings with guard skill sets (think Svi) that could come in and impact right away.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 thanks
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
Any of these guys still on our radar? https://www.si.com/college/kansas/basketball/five-players-bill-self-and-kansas-can-still-add-to-the-jayhawks-roster
Schulman as the author…woof
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@BShark yeah i mean i have no idea who is legit and who isnt. If you guys in the know on who to trust have time to put together a list of which sources to read that would be super helpful for us to play along at home
you drop a name here and there but ive been too lazy to aggregate
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@approxinfinity just not a fan. He is a real person though
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Ha Dessert is a no go. What a shame
Significant roadblock potentially involving appeal process is what the issue is here
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Sucks!
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ugh.
I understand 29-year-old Eddie Lampkin Jr. is available…
Oh, and sooner than later the hundreds or more guys who are still available will realize that NIL money is about dried up across the country (i assume).
Maybe Burrito King can step up their game!
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As crazy as it sounds KU very easily end up with ten man roster lol. you talk about a cluster F - - - , should be REAL INTRESTING.
Now Trump getting his hands all messy by screwing with visa’s
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I like the 3 portal adds but I’ll also be real and say I’m underwhelmed by what they did this offseason. I understand funds may have been limited but I don’t think they planned well at all and that’s on the coaching staff.
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The focus is still a big and a wing, the last spot could go to another front court type.
This offseason has been mostly forgettable
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
I like the 3 portal adds but I’ll also be real and say I’m underwhelmed by what they did this offseason. I understand funds may have been limited but I don’t think they planned well at all and that’s on the coaching staff.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I believe we turned down two top 30-40 wings in London Jemison and Sebastian Williams Adams last year and now we have barely any wings and three open roster spots. The fetish for transfers and overall planning has been horrible. Not even sure if those guys would’ve been super impactful but we’re scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this point and someone would’ve been better than no one.
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Yeah I think that’s a better way of wording it than I did rcjhdraft. I’m underwhelmed by their planning and have some concerns about the coaching staff and their ability to adapt to this era.
With that said if they could wrap this portal season up and add Kerem Konan, Marko Radunovic and Pat Suemnick it would be a solid haul. I don’t think it’s likely though.
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Maybe they did pass on both, but neither was expected to be a year 1 high impact dude. I don’t remember Jemison ever visiting here (or having serious interest) and while SWA did visit they seemed to have him lower on the pecking order at the time. We also have no idea what NIL # they were looking for & could KU afford it. There’s an obvious reason KU only signed 2 HS players this year, 1 being one of the most expensive in the country (for good reason).
I’m not going to make much excuse for the outcome of the offseason but it’s kind of felt like there’s no roadmap to follow & there’s been a crazy amount of circumstances that have made it difficult to be successful in the KU bubble alone.
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OK, so now let me get this right. --Sooo things have slowed or stopped with Dessert ?- -Heard from posters on TOS & even here that things are done — -am I understanding this right ? If this is true then what the F - - - are we doing ? Trouble with Visa or something is that right ?
So Dessert is not an option anymore because of problems to keep him from coming over then WHY the hell is K/ State and Utah all over recruiting Dessert trying to land him now ?- – -Hmmmmm
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Dessert is not coming due what sounds like significant issues with his situation. He was a pro player so perhaps issues with eligibility. Perhaps visa or other paperwork concerns. Sounds like they were red flags with him being here so its a no go.
We are good at finding the 1 international player that has issues. We have a well established history of it
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Sure seems doom and gloom at the moment. But, i’m sure we’ll come up with a few more quality players.
We have four good starters at the moment. DP / Dawson / White / ? / Flory
Council is probably the sixth man?
The big questions are Tiller and Elmarko. Can those two be counted on to contribute? From what we’ve seen from Elmarko pre-injury, i’m sure we’re all wondering the same thing.
Jeez, now that i look at what i wrote, we need some depth!
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Suemnick is off the board to Seton Hall
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That can’t be true. People on the internet were saying Suemnick to KU was a done deal.
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If Suemnick was going to play real minutes here, KU was already going to be in big trouble.
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@BeddieKU23 Well if then is true then why and how is K/State and Utah now going after him so hard ?
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 Well if then is true then why and how is K/State and Utah now going after him so hard ?
Not every school has the same admissions standards if there’s some academic stuff. If it’s visa issues, it may not have been worth the efforts on KU’s end for someone who wasn’t likely going to be in the regular rotation. For KSU and Utah, it may be worth it to them if they think Dessert would be in their rotations.
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The “strategy” for this off season is simply…mystifying.
We knew what we had coming back, which wasn’t much at all - 5ppg in Flory - high potential, but still raw - Elmarko - underwhelming first year and coming off a serious injury - Tiller - essentially an unproven freshman coming off injury - and Jamari - at best a few minutes off the bench guy. And, of course, DP - 1st or 2nd ranked recruit, but still a freshman.
We knew what we needed - 3 P5 level starters with more speed, length and athleticism, one of whom needed to be the first or second option on offense - a 15ppg+ scorer - plus front court depth and better perimeter shooting. Yes, we wanted better fits, but fits that fit the bill. No issues with the three transfers as role players and maybe filling 2 starter slots. Our perimeter defense should be much, much better. But they don’t come close to matching the portal hauls by other teams.
White is a solid P5 role player, but that’s it. Over three years, has averaged 10ppg and 30% from 3. Makes fewer than one trey per game. That isn’t going to help with spacing. Numbers haven’t changed much over the 3 years - he is who he is. Dawson and Council solid contributors on non-P5 teams. Should we expect them to do more against consistently better competition? Dawson stepped up his scoring his third year to 14 ppg and solid from 3, but overall FG% just 41%. I like what Council brings, but he is sub 30% from 3. Are any of the three really 30mpg B12 caliber starters or more like 15-20 mpg role players?
Given what we so obviously needed - and still need - it’s difficult to comprehend the very high risk strategy of waiting out the draft game to fill key starting and depth roles (or the international can they qualify crap shoot). Yes, it’s worked before, but that was before NIL bags got so large. Most (exception of Luis) of the handful of guys that ended up coming back were in the driver’s seat and able to get big hauls from high bidders.
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St. John’s portal haul for comparison (added to Zuby):
Bryce Hopkins (17.0 PPG at Providence) - Oziyah Sellers (13.7 PPG at Stanford) - Joson Sanon (11.9 PPG at Arizona State) - Ian Jackson (11.9 PPG at North Carolina) - Dylan Darling (19.8 PPG at Idaho State) - Dillon Mitchell (9.9 PPG at Cincinnati) - Handje Tamba (10.5 PPG at Milligan - NAIA)
