The portal.
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@drgnslayr Unless Bill and his staff start turning away minions under 6’6", we might as well forget about dominating the NCAA!! j/k
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@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Agree re Council. Seems like a really solid rotation guy willing to go hard when he is in. But, a starter? A <15ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure? FG% 44%. 3pt% 30%. Just 2 FTAs per game averaging 37 minutes. Against much lower competition. Just 6’4’’ and 180lbs. Not sure how he will measure up against other B12 guards/wings. Same with Dawson. 14ppg for a double digit loss team in the A-10. Just 41% from the field. Also 6’4" and 185lbs. White also seems like a solid rotation piece, but just 10ppg for an okay Illinois team and just 23mpg. Is he really a starter on a team that aspires to titles? 6’7’’ and 210lbs. Not really a 4 and doesn’t shoot well enough from outside to be a 2-3?
All good rotation players, but starters??? Are we going to have to get 25ppg+ from DeP?
I don’t think Dawson should start and I don’t think White should be the starting 4, he should be at the 3. White’s scoring average last season would’ve been 3rd best on KU. KU isn’t asking him to come in and be the guy. As a 3rd or 4th option depending on who else comes in, I’m good with White’s production. Just remember, that okay Illinois team was a higher seed in the NCAA Tournament than KU was.
Peterson might be good enough to be the highest scoring player Bill Self has had at Kansas, or at least join Jalen Wilson, Frank Mason, and Wayne Simien as 20 ppg scorers and Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore, and Andrew Wiggins as the only freshmen to lead KU in scoring under Self. I also think Flory, Elmarko, and Tre White can all be double digit scorers for KU next season.
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Rylan visiting Kentucky
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@drgnslayr This all day please. Penetrating guards completely screw with a defense. All focus inherently goes to the penetrator, and then if the other 4 offensive players relocate or cut to the basket, it’s open shots and/or free throws. Sr. year Tyshawn was so good at this.
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That one Sam Houston State sharpshooter went to Indiana I think
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
That one Sam Houston State sharpshooter went to Indiana I think
Yes he did
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
That one Sam Houston State sharpshooter went to Indiana I think
They call Mark Pope the WHIFF man.
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Any word on PJ Haggerty’s destination? And if they’ll pay his $4mil asking price?!?
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Just read article about teams with most NIL money. These Schools have 10 Million : Arkansas , BYU , Duke , Indiana , Kentucky , Louisville , Michigan , St Johns , Texas Tech ,
Teams with 8 Million :- - - Auburn , U Conn , Florida , Houston , KU , KSU , Miami , Purdue , Tenn , Virg , Villanova , Tex , USC , UCLA
Money , Money , Money although thought we might be some higher
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Sounds like Coward going to end up at Florida , he named his final five Schools, broke down how he would fit at the five different ones.–The five he listed are : Florida - – --Alabama - - -Duke- – Waashington— & KU-- just sounds like he is headed to Florida u
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STILL in need of a solid wing, someone who is a legit threat scorer , hit the J with consistency- -& a quality Big who can and is willing to back up Flory at the five.-- Still two glaring needs
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Just saw where moves are being made with Darrion Williams from Texas Tech – hmmm
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Get Darrion and KU might be preseason #1 again lol, but sounded like BYU money is on the table for him so I’m not holding my breath
Edit: reread your post and may have missed what you are saying. KU is involved or signs pointing to him heading back to Tech now over BYU?
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@MR11 – from my understanding KU Involved
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Just saw where Denzel Aberbdean from m Florisa committed to Kentucky. I was listening on the field of 68 and couldn’t quite figure out why the move.
Talking about how he was in line to be a Starter from the National defending Champions to Kentucky , going from a situation where he was going from probably 35 minutes of Court time to 20-25 minutes, and just wondering how he was going to fit, as that position is already loaded at Kentucky.
They said Kentucky with they think fourteen players on the roster now, and not sure how your going to keep them all happy. Said they think Kentucky is right about a twelve Million dollar NIL payroll right now, and they don’t think no way they keep all these playes.
THIS is the State College Basketball has become right now. Pitiful
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Seeing Zeke entered the portal in case there is some ruling on eligibility… also sounds like he would return to KU if that happens
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Really hoping the 5/5 rule happens. Zeke is the only player from last year it would affect. (KJ is hurt, Hunt and Juan already played 5)
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Would like Zeke back as well.
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@FarmerJayhawk When is KJ predicted to be healthy? Sometimes elite athletes like him heal quicker and if he came back I could see some idiotic stuff lineup wise take place
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Absolutely would take Zeke back. What a whirlwind portal circus
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When will the Darrion Williams to BYU deal be announced? Sounds like BYU has a bag and is putting together a nice team!
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I hope Darrion Williams likes having sex and drinking coffee enough to not pick BYU
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This is getting totally out of control.
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@Jhawk69 wow this i learned today. Thanks
Mormons are also taught not to drink “hot drinks,” meaning coffee or any tea other than herbal tea…
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Are there rules that cover practice players? For instance, could Zeke, etc return as a practice / scout player? I’ve always thought it helps teams to play against the best practice squad possible. Would it make sense to invest in that?
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Don’t believe he has an offer there but ya know nothing is believable until it happens
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Coward is down to Bama and Duke. Nike bidding war
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Coward is down to Bama and Duke. Nike bidding war
This is actually one I was surprised we didn’t get involved in.
His film is so good. He is productive and efficient and fills a need in a bad, bad way.
If we end up with the TTU guy it’s fine. Good backup plan. But Coward is a total stud.
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@BeddieKU23 been Bama is the talk
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
I hope Darrion Williams likes having sex and drinking coffee enough to not pick BYU
I’m assuming this was tongue in cheek but just in case, you don’t have to be Mormon to go to BYU.
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Honestly just think he fits better with Bama if that’s his destination, or Duke same, situation. They are both running offenses beter suited to him.
Self has to prove with Peterson he’s going to adapt from a pound it inside philosophy to a perimeter based attack. We all know as die hard fans he’s capable of it but it’s been several seasons now of the same ole.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t want to gamble on such an important position with a guy coming off a major injury and not a ton of action against top level teams. He only played 6 games this season and didn’t exactly light it up against defensive juggernaut Iowa in his only game against a p4 team. Probably expensive as well and KU is not exactly rolling with cash left it sounds (majority of funds tied up right now).
Williams might not be affordable either but he’s a surefire stud. Stokes as well. Those guys can move the needle. Not sure Coward will.
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@RockkChalkk I think you can be suspended from the team if you violate the university code of ethics.
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@RockkChalkk I think you can be suspended from the team if you violate the university code of ethics.
Chaste and Virtuous Life: Students are expected to live a life that aligns with the principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including avoiding premarital sexual relations. Abstinence: Students are expected to abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, vaping, marijuana, and other substances.
How do they get any non-Mormon recruits?
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@dylans It’s called an unlimited NIL supply. Just heard them talking about BYU’s money
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Was just watching 247 portal program talking about commits-- who was left- -NIL money and such. Travis Brennan from 247 said sa of this point and time he says he thinks KU is the leader for Williams & if he had to rate transfers that he personally would rate him right at or very close to the top rated players in the Portal.
HE DID say now of course BYU has the unlimited Money supply BUT right now thinks KU is the one who should be considered the favorite
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Elite athletes treat their body like a mormon temple… surrounding themselves with non-athletes that do the same might actually make higher standards easier.
I didn’t drink coffee in college…
Beer though.
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What is the play now that the portal has closed, the vast majority of entrants committed (certainly of the top 100), and we have the 31st ranked portal class (per 247)? I assume someone on the board has a good idea.
Are we putting a lot/all our eggs in the Stokes or Williams basket? Where are the points (and rebounds) going to come from with who we have now? We have 5ppg coming back - that’s it. Flory should be improved, but he is not going to be a big scorer. Are White, Dawson and Council going to up their scoring averages against B12 competition? Doubtful. Let’s assume they can maintain their scoring average and Flory doubles to 10ppg. Those four get us less than 50ppg. Maybe DP can get 20ppg+. Bench points? If opponents clog the middle and dare to knock down 3s, who can consistently do that?
Do we currently have a roster that can be competitive game to game? Yes, but compete for a B12 title, let alone a NC? Doesn’t seem to be close to that. DP better be the best player in the country and unstoppable…
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@DCHawker Remind me to answer you when we have all our roster spots filled.
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We have had several swings and miss , 247 saying that Eleven of the top fifth teen have committed
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@DCHawker The roster is still incomplete. There’s still quality players in the portal and there will be players withdrawing from the draft who are mostly the highest ceiling players available.
As far as scoring, yes Darryn Peterson is that good. Flory should see a big bump as long as he bulks up a bit this offseason and probablymore than doubles his scoring output. Tre White will likely see a little scoring bump as he’ll likely play closer to 30 mpg, but is a proven double digit per game scorer in a power conference at both Illinois and Louisville.
I also believe that since KU hasn’t really been linked to a high level PG that the staff expects Elmarko be a major factor and if he plays anywhere near his ceiling, he’s another double digit per game scorer.
KU will be fine, Self has clearly shown this offseason that he has a better understanding of the portal and has recruited players that should be much better fits than last season.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/04/2025-nba-draft-early-entrants-list.html
This has a list of players who have declared for the draft and has a list of players who could withdraw before the May 28 deadline. Somewhere in that list is likely where the last big piece of the puzzle will come from. Even if not, I do believe there will be at least 3 future NBA players on KU’s roster next season with Peterson, Flory, and Elmarko.
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You are spot on here. Self is being more careful to only look for players that fit in his scheme this time.
I feel comfortable that we get at least one more very solid starter piece.
Flory needs more offensive moves… but he’s going to rack up good numbers regardless. This year he will be starting and counted on… that means everything to him. He will rack up numbers just by hustling more. I don’t see him as NBA ready for quite some time. But he’ll have plenty of NIL money to bide his time and develop. If he’s smart, he’ll do it in college instead of being traded every other week in developmental ball at the next level.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Who do you see backing Flory ?— Still no back up Big.
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Don’t think that’s actually the case. Not getting into bidding wars for guys, Flory cost double what they might have expected so that took available capital that could have went elsewhere. They have been selective and diligent about things this cycle. We shall see if it pays off. They obviously have 2 major needs still if this is to be anything close to a good portal season. The waiting and constant circus does suck tho
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Wonder if Desmond Claude would be an option if Williams doesn’t work out. Previous relationship from HS…
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Who do you see backing Flory ?— Still no back up Big.
That’s potentially one of the needs, but if Tiller can recover from his ankle surgery in an expected timeline which would have him cleared in time for summer workouts, that would be the ideal option behind Flory. Tiller has less shooting range than KJ did so he wouldn’t be much use at the 4 on offense, but as a back up 5, would be a good situation. This might be what the staff is anticipating as well considering KU hasn’t really been connected with many post options in the portal to this point.
Right now, Self is more focused on trying to find his 5th starter rather than a back up post option so we might see more movement in regards to a back up 5 after the Williams/Stokes situation is settled. That said, I wouldn’t be all that surprised if Bryson Tiller ended up being Flory’s primary back up.
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
Elite athletes treat their body like a mormon temple… surrounding themselves with non-athletes that do the same might actually make higher standards easier.
I didn’t drink coffee in college…
Beer though.
It seemed like more were like John Daly than Tiger Woods back in the day.
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May not STILL be to late to get in on that big w need to team up with/Flory. Jor Tipton pasted that 6" 11 Louisville Big Man James Scott Soph , has entered the ported. This came out about a hour and a half ago.
Not huge numbers and yet averaged 7.1 ppg 7 6.1 rpg not monster by any means but team him with Flory think it would be very suffice production wise and the two combined would make up a quality tandem at the Five. We could at least dabble our toes get a feel what the water might be like on this guy.
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Was listening to locked on Jay Haqks and from I’m hearing there is a number between Ku & Williams just trying to make it work as thete is mutual interest.
