KU vs TCU game chat
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Hunter sold it, but I’ve seen it adjuticated like that many times. There is always the discussion of whether it was intentional or not, but the officials are not supposed to speculate on that. (I’m not a rules expert, just reiterating what I’ve heard and read in the past.)
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Hunter with 30pts???!?!?!?
This team is really good.
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It used to be an auto flagrant. We’ve gotten jobbed on that many a time (see Smart, Marcus)
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Once again , things tight late/on the line Juan who did nothing in the 1st half scores some huge baskets, think scores 10 in the 2nd half
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@FarmerJayhawk Exactly! That’s the first time I can recall us benefitting from that call. We’re usually the one getting the shaft.
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Makes up for flop on their end
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KJ rebounding ball better and Coach still finds a way to deflect that say KJ and Hunter gotta get better rebounding the ball lol defensively - -Dam KJ with a double double 18/11
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I thought the refs kept them in it personally, at one point it was 9-3 in the second half foul wise
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Udeh with the game winner!
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@kjayhawks TCU was driving it. KU wasn’t. Then the script flipped. How did it seem in person? Hope your kiddos had a blast!
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We didn’t rebound as well 2nd half.
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Udeh looks very different, could not recognize him.
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I am impressed by P Braun, he has exceeded my expectations coming into the season. He plays with great energy.
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Self looks much calmer this year, no red face and not much yelling.
Perhaps this is the result of his recovery from last year’s cardiac procedure.
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@AsadZ said in KU vs TCU game chat:
I am impressed by P Braun, he has exceeded my expectations coming into the season. He plays with great energy.
And there seems to be organic chemistry between DeJuan and Parker. We know why, but that’s a nice intangible.
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Good to see Udeh still helping KU win games, lol!
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Just got through listening to TCU postgame , Jamie really slick trying to play it cool about the calls or some of the calls without getting himself in trouble with the league. - -He would work his words around like talking about they was hoping they could get some traveling calls on some lobs, BUT the pass was right on the money, or he would say w was hoping we could work hard enough that we might get some calls for push in the back and yada , yada , yada -thought he was pretty slick on taking jabs about the officiating without getting in trouble
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@Texas-Hawk-10 4 pt swing
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@dylans it was good, turnovers were insane and TCU flopped often. Couple of the fouls they showed replays of probably fired up the fans more than the game. Kids loved it. I had to physically remove my daughter (5) from hugging baby Jay. She was upset he couldn’t come live with us lol. Always a good time in AFH. That last shot was close. The guy next to us thought it went in lol.
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I’ll add #4 for them had a lethal step back, #11 can shoot lights out and they were freakishly long
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@kjayhawks that last shot was pretty dang short.
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Miller flopped, you could tell by the fans reaction. The foul they called on kj. Dixon teaches flopping.
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Our turnovers kept them in the game. We should have won by at least 10 points if not more. Coach has to impress upon the guys to take care of the ball.
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@Crimsonorblue22 yep it was right online with the hoop and the net moved Think that’s all he saw lol, we were at a bad angle for that shot
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@Crimsonorblue22 Doug Gottlieb chimed in on twitter, something about Bill Self getting calls.
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All conference wins are good. Just look at the chaos today…
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Jay Wright liked the call.
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The neutral fans just want to see Kansas lose. I doubt they’d be nearly as irate if a TCU player had caught an elbow from Hunter, and TCU had gone on to win the game. In fact, just based on some of the comments I read about Hunter and KU, I’m betting a lot of people would be saying it was a good call, and calling Hunter a dirty player. But I won’t be losing any sleep over it.
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@wissox that a breaking news story lol
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@KirkIsMyHinrich We are Kansas we only win because of the refs
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@kjayhawks What are the odds we would get so many calls? Self should play the lottery!
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@kjayhawks in football too. Ask UNLV.
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@nuleafjhawk Cincy and Phil fans still griping today in The WPost about the NFL fixing it last year for the Chiefs.
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Different question. Who were the 3 TCU male fans the TV kept showing? Big guys. Apparently they had seats in an upper corner.
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One was the dad of the kid who shot the last shot. He played ball somewhere. Kid was Jameer Henson jr. I think. Copied and pasted Son of Jameer and Imani Nelson… Has younger sisters Jamia, Jayden and Jayce… Father, Jameer, starred at Saint Joseph’s University from 2000-04 before enjoying a 14-year NBA career, and is currently an Assistant GM with the Delaware Blue Coats.
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Were going to be hearing quite a bit about that call for some time , I hate that things like that just take away from a really exciting game. 26 lead changes , can’t remember how many ties. National media all over the call , Self said he thought it was clear -you have people like Jeff Goodman , -The guy Childress- --can’t remember his first name , played college ball and another guy that have the field of 68 - -saying KU should not of Won that game it was a flop by Dickinson , how KU got help from the refs, - others saying that even a former ref said that it was a bad call, should of been a play on.
Even Micheal Swain our KU beat reporter said Hunter sold it, that it should of been a play on , but with Hunter laying on the floor for the time sold the call., Swin if this would of been a game on the road and Hunter swung the elbow it would of been a play on. - -It might not of been as a bad of look if it was at a different point of the game, but coming at the time it did and causing a dour point swing, resulting in a two point win, not a good look at all. -Did Hunter flop? - I think maybe to a certain degree thing is judt gives fuel to people- - -media and just adds more to the fire about how KU get’s al kinds of help from whoever it takes when playing at the phog
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If we don’t get some home cooking in Allen at times then what’s the point of a home court advantage. We see it happen to us all the time on the road so I will not lose sleep here.
The rule is clear and it was called. What sold it was Hunter, as Self said in the post game.
No different then Miller selling that foul on KJ or guys calling for the ball that goes out of bounds to be their ball when they know it’s not. You influence the play however you can and Hunter did what he had to do to change the play so credit to him. Udeh being the guy that fouled is fitting because we know his antics and foul tendencies.
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Wasn’t even mentioned in either the ESPN site game recap or Kyle Boone’s CBS article.
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TCU is a good team, perhaps even a lot better then they are getting credit for in the rankings. They are top 25 in at least 7 team statistics including 8th in steals per game. Some of the turnovers were from TCU being a really good team at forcing turnovers with their traps and doubles.
They are just like KU but with more firepower from the perimeter at times. Nelson that comes off the bench is clearly a starter level guy and they are top 5 in experience in all of D-1.
Dixon has played KU tough the past 3-4 years and elevated to compete against us. He thumped us in Allen last year and the road games have always been difficult. I expected this game to be tough and it pushed us to the brink at home.
I like that this game kind of sets us up for the next couple games, unknown road game at UCF who will be looking for a bounce back after getting dismantled at K-ST and then a big one again next weekend with Oklahoma. They needed this kind of game to knock some rust off after only 5 games in the past month.
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@Gorilla72 said in KU vs TCU game chat:
Different question. Who were the 3 TCU male fans the TV kept showing? Big guys. Apparently they had seats in an upper corner.
It was the father of one of the TCU guards. I’m guessing it was Tennyson since he was having a career day. But it could have been a different guard. ESPN showed the guard on the court then his father with admittedly not great seats.
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We need a bit more production from bench, starters cannot play 35+ games in this brutal league.
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Elmarko needs to step up, if shots are not falling, he needs to become a lockdown defender.
Without watching replay, his D looked soft yesterday.
Is Jamari in Self’s doghouse, got yanked out quickly.
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Jameer Nelson, former NBA player and St Joe’s legend. His son Jr plays for TCU
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The minutes played by our starters yesterday just can’t be sustained over the rest of the season: Juan, 39 min.; Kevin, 38; KJ, 37; and Hunter, 35. And 24 wasted minutes by Elmarko, 0 pts. 0/4 shooting, 2 rbs and 2 assists. I understand the starters were needed yesterday against an inspired TCU team. Now that KU plays two games a week, we’ll see how the playing time gets divided. Nick at the point yesterday was a complete surprise to me, even though it was only a minute. Parker could take some of KJ’s minutes; I really think KU would benefit by giving him more minutes than the 5 he played yesterday.
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@AsadZ said in KU vs TCU game chat:
Elmarko needs to step up, if shots are not falling, he needs to become a lockdown defender.
Without watching replay, his D looked soft yesterday.
Is Jamari in Self’s doghouse, got yanked out quickly.
He got yanked out quickly because just had n sooner came into the game and I believe he was the one who made silly turnover with I think Double Dribble. Couldn’t of picked a worse time to screw up that was one of the stretchs where Bill was trying to find that fifth guy, Furphy came in got yanked then Mcdowell came in and got yanked, Bill was not in a good mood during that stretch. They mentioned it either on the TV broadcast or Radio broadcast at that time
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@stoptheflop said in KU vs TCU game chat:
The minutes played by our starters yesterday just can’t be sustained over the rest of the season: Juan, 39 min.; Kevin, 38; KJ, 37; and Hunter, 35. And 24 wasted minutes by Elmarko, 0 pts. 0/4 shooting, 2 rbs and 2 assists. I understand the starters were needed yesterday against an inspired TCU team. Now that KU plays two games a week, we’ll see how the playing time gets divided. Nick at the point yesterday was a complete surprise to me, even though it was only a minute. Parker could take some of KJ’s minutes; I really think KU would benefit by giving him more minutes than the 5 he played yesterday.
I agree, they have just got to find/get some kind of minutes/production out of this bench , because of the physicality of this league we just can’t continue to have the starters having to play those type of minutes. There is no way they won’t wear down over the stretch of the Season. By the time the tourney rolls around they will be so exhausted.
Also they have just got to gt more scoring production out of other players - -Kevin , Hunter , & KJ had to do this all by themselves in the first half - -other then Johnny’s ONE point . In the 2nd half others finally was able to get some contribution. - -Juan has just got to score or look to score more, - he has proven he can do it. Coach has said multiple times Juan is a reluctant shooter. I think maybe to a point other He teams realize a lot of times when he drives baseline of course he isn’t going to try and score - - going to try and kick it out, and I think part of the problem for his recent rise in turnover, stupid forced passes. He is capable - -someone has to step up. Three guys isn’t going to get you to the promised land the deeper you go in the tourney we need others to produce more
@stoptheflop said in KU vs TCU game chat:
The minutes played by our starters yesterday just can’t be sustained over the rest of the season: Juan, 39 min.; Kevin, 38; KJ, 37; and Hunter, 35. And 24 wasted minutes by Elmarko, 0 pts. 0/4 shooting, 2 rbs and 2 assists. I understand the starters were needed yesterday against an inspired TCU team. Now that KU plays two games a week, we’ll see how the playing time gets divided. Nick at the point yesterday was a complete surprise to me, even though it was only a minute. Parker could take some of KJ’s minutes; I really think KU would benefit by giving him more minutes than the 5 he played yesterday.
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@stoptheflop I had to check the box score to see if Jackson recorded a stat besides a TO.
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I’m wondering if Furphy is close to taking the 5th starting spot? Nick even.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Nick looked good yesterday, had a couple of steals and was much better defensively. I’m kinda shocked that Jackson has a leash of 6 miles while the other youngsters have one that’s 6 inches. If he has a game like yesterday again, I’d start Timberlake or Furphy
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If they counted how many times he gave up a basket he’d lead the team. Really poor defensive game from him yesterday and you could tell he was not having his best day. Nerves for conference opener. Hopefully he settles. We are just seeing the up and down for sure
