Transfer Rumblings
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Certainly wouldn’t expect Kevin on Defense but his size and athleticism are there to be good on that side
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Imagine throwing out team efficiency stats that don’t adjust for opponent strength or tempo
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@FarmerJayhawk Feel free to share the data that factors those in and where we ranked defensively for the last 8-10 years……
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Will do! KenPom.com
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FWIW - I’m just gonna hit the brakes here. KU had a great team on paper coming in last year and then the wheels fell off. Players left early for various reasons. I’m pumped for the upcoming season but I’m going to wait to see if any of these guys leave without playing at KU. Already rumors of a HS commit looking elsewhere. Hoping for the best but there’s only on ball on the court.
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since Self joined us, he’s had only one year out of the top 25 in Adjusted D, according to KenPom
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2018
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@Gorilla72 I do feel like the majority of us last season thought we barely had any shooting on the team
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KU’s KenPom Adjusted Defensive Efficiency Rankings in recent years.
2023-24: 20th
2022-23: 11th
2021-22: 17th
2020-21: 12th
2019-20: 2nd
2018-19: 17th
2017-18: 47th
2016-17: 24th
2015-16: 3rd
2014-15: 9th
Offense has been Self’s bigger issue as there’s only been a few times under Self that the offense was ranked higher in the adjusted rankings than the defense was.
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@rcjhdraft - I was in reference to preseason when Morris, Adam’s et al, filled the rooster before anyone started leaving (or practicing).
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Please can Jamari and Clemence leave already
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Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
Oh geez , welp dng hope it can, but if not turns out he can’t then Coach just keep plugging away- - I’m so lost on Scholi’s now-- -let’s see IF Kugel can’t transfer that opens one-- still think probably Jamari is two -Then if Coach tries to go with 13 players this year I guess that would still be one. So gives us three still right if that’s the case ?
You figure then Rylan takes one of those three—then again IF Kugel can’t transfer-- possibly we work on Brea ?
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Please can Jamari and Clemence leave already
I’m beginning to get this feel that Zach just may end up staying. Coach says he has really changed, probably most improved in just more ways then on the Court also
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
Yeah, wasn’t gonna say it because I always get skittish on academics
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Please can Jamari and Clemence leave already
No, they both have long term relationships here and don’t want to move.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
Yeah, wasn’t gonna say it because I always get skittish on academics
We move if needed. Bill has more time to cook thankfully.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
This could be a blessing in disguise IMO. I don’t have a ton of Florida connections. Just a kid that used to detail cars that got a huge inheritance and moved to the area. He was shocked Kugel was even being pursued by Kansas. He said he would bet the guy ends up in prison and locals are very happy he is leaving.
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grades might not work out for Kugel to transfer. As the portal turns.
This could be a blessing in disguise IMO. I don’t have a ton of Florida connections. Just a kid that used to detail cars that got a huge inheritance and moved to the area. He was shocked Kugel was even being pursued by Kansas. He said he would bet the guy ends up in prison and locals are very happy he is leaving.
Huh. Never heard anything bad about the kid off the court
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Very happy with the Storr get and applaud the staff for it. Not to be a negative Nancy but I’m not getting excited til I see this group play together cohesively. Not only have we seen transfer U not work in the past. Thinking of 2019 with the Lawsons, Moore and Cunliffe (spelled wrong) nightmare.
Last season around this time we all were saying Natty or bust, myself included. I need this staff to prove to me that they can scout talent accurately and see the team play before I get too wild. Parker, Timberlake and Jackson were misses IMO.
I take @kuballin10 side slightly with Juan. No ill will towards the kid but it’s frustrating to watch him get taken to school repeatedly defensively and screw up but have zero accountability for such. Elmarko or Mari makes one bad play and they are right back to riding the pine. I fully support that type of coaching but you can’t do it to a few guys and not the rest. On paper the guys we got coming should push Juan hard for minutes as it is. If he’s not gonna play like he’s capable, he should get pulled. We should easily go at least 8 deep this season. You get burned get on bench son and figure it out.
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@FarmerJayhawk it’s just one kids opinion on the matter doesn’t necessarily mean it’s factual. But at the same time not sure why he would have a vendetta against him. Maybe he turned down an autograph lol. I’m probably a little too cautious after the Morris incident, just don’t want high risk guys on the team. Even if it’s the next MJ, we need positive exposure.
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@kjayhawks that’s totally fair, he’s clearly the biggest risk we’ve taken this cycle and that’s just some questionable attitude and frustration last year didn’t go well for him
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@FarmerJayhawk for sure and with regards to young kids that have his potential. I hope if his grades allow him to come to Lawrence or not that he excels. I don’t think it’s healthy to wish negative things upon anyone other than Mizzou going winless in conference again haha.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kjayhawks that’s totally fair, he’s clearly the biggest risk we’ve taken this cycle and that’s just some questionable attitude and frustration last year didn’t go well for him
I talked to someone that knows the current Florida S&C coach I will just say I won’t be too fussed whatever happens with Kugel.
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Get me Griffen to go with Storr and I’m more than fine with a wing rotation of Storr and Rylan with Rakease getting McDowell type of minutes.
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@BShark Any chance if we lose Kugel…Wade pops in the portal?
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@TYOHawk Kease is gonna surprise some people…
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Any chance if we lose Kugel…Wade pops in the portal?
If Kugel doesn’t make it I’d rather have Brea
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https://x.com/Isaac__Trotter/status/1781027586090426708
In case you need more proof it’s offense that runs things. You give me 5 guys who can score and it’s way easier to teach them how to defend and positioning…defense is tenacity and want to.
You give me 5 dudes who can defend but can’t throw it in the ocean standing on the beach and it won’t matter how good they are defensively when they don’t get buckets in half court crunch time sets……
Did you read the athletics article on Hurley and his offense?
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@jayballer67 From comments in this chat I’d much rather have Brea but I think he’s UK bound……
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“Bill Self is a f****** monster”
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Any chance if we lose Kugel…Wade pops in the portal?
Any chance we lose you?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Any chance if we lose Kugel…Wade pops in the portal?
Any chance we lose you?
lol - - play nice
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@jayballer67 If he wants to D-ride Hurley so much, then he should go be UConn fan.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 If he wants to D-ride Hurley so much, then he should go be UConn fan.
lol , ys sir I hear you - found out this is the kind of crap that gets him off, knowing he is getting under your skin, gotten to the point I just laugh anymore because he is a clown.
He has been a dedicated Juan humper all year, every time words spew out his mouth just goes to show how much less he REALLY KNOWS.- -probably was a U Conn lil people until even they banned him off their sites. He ain’t nothin but a thing -don’t even let him bother you-- -kinda like a bad dream he never goes away lol. – gonna be alright bud---- - -ROCK CHALK
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
“Bill Self is a f****** monster”
Something brewing today?
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@FarmerJayhawk Who’s going to tell him to defend in the NBA?
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@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
“Bill Self is a f****** monster”
Something brewing today?
Not today but this weekend will be a fun one to follow if it all works out
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@nuleafjhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk Who’s going to tell him to defend in the NBA?
Most of the league probably. There’s not much tolerance now for guys who chuck and don’t really defend. I don’t remember exactly when it flipped (maybe 10ish years ago?) but defense has made a heck of a comeback in the NBA where teams really value it.
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@FarmerJayhawk Lol - I guess that’s why I shouldn’t run my mouth about things I have no knowledge of. I haven’t watched NBA basketball since 1987, when I lived in Houston and went to about 3 Rockets games per year.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Kind of feels like we were the last ones standing on Storr so we can get him at a more reasonable NIL deal
KU is doing a lot to get this one done lol
Now that Storr announced… Got his mom a house and job in Lawrence, is the chatter.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
“Bill Self is a f****** monster”
Something brewing today?
Not today but this weekend will be a fun one to follow if it all works out
Arguably the best in KU history. Still have to cross ts etc
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Wiggins and Embiid big? Guess that wasn’t the same weekend. I’m still ticked about DeShawn Stevenson’s ACT score…should’ve been a big weekend.
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Gradey is back in town to help recruit ahahaha.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 If he wants to D-ride Hurley so much, then he should go be UConn fan.
Hard not to be a fan of what they just did back to back. We were supposed to take the reins when K and Roy retired but Hurley as big of a turd as he is; took over.
I couldn’t fathom Self winning back to back with an entirely new starting 5. Heck I couldn’t fathom running through the tournament winning every game by an 18 point margin making it look easy let alone doing it twice. Gotta tip your cap and see what on earth they adjusted to do that. Will be curious to see what happens this upcoming year with his squad.
Our 2008 tourney had close calls to Davidson and Memphis.
2022 - Close games Creighton, Providence and UNC.
Hurley is one of my least favorite coaches but to have the wherewithal to look at his system/philosophy/roster construction and adjust it was the opposite of stubborn.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Only if you’d quit acting like it’s the 70’s and defense wins titles….
And acknowledge Hurley’s plan that Edey wouldn’t score 25 2’s and shut down purdues three was genius and the exact opposite of what Bill would have done.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Only if you’d quit acting like it’s the 70’s and defense wins titles….
If only facts didn’t support that defense still wins championships no matter how much you don’t want that to be true. There’s only been one title team in the Kenpom era (2002) to have a defense ranked outside the top 20 in adjusted defensive efficiency, and only 3 teams outside the top 15 in adjusted defensive efficiency.
So no, I’m not going to pretend that defense doesn’t still win championships because that’s not what reality says.
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I guess we can add threads like this as positive for the transfer portal. I remember this site being mostly a ghost town after the ncaa tournament.
