Transfer Rumblings
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@benshawks08 You really bringing a team argument when trying to compare two individuals games?
Man glad Brett Veach didn’t think like you when drafting Patrick Mahomes “man he hasn’t won in college like Deshaun Watson so we can’t take him”
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@kjayhawks Actually it’s not……if you flipped players on teams do you think Juan could perform like zeke has with the ability to actually lead a team, score and carry the load? The answer is no way but I guarantee if you told zeke to focus on defense, distributing and shoot the open 3 @ the 39% clip….Zeke could do that.
The team can easily replace Juan because he isn’t the best pure pg in America
Zeke - 18 ppg, 5.7 boards, 3.5 apg, 1.1 steals, 3.1 turnovers (happens when you try to score and make things happen….see d2’s performances this year)
Juan - 8.5 ppg, 2 boards, 6.5 apg, 1.5 steals and 2.4 turnovers
I’d take 3 less assists but 10 more points guaranteed every night. Surround zeke with Hunter and kj and I guarantee you his assist numbers would increase to 5/6 a game.
What Juan does assist wise isn’t some drive and dish thing…it’s pick and roll hit kj for a dunk or Hunter for the elbow jumper….thats what dudes 40-50 run at the ymca every morning.
This fan base is so warped because Bill is so stubborn that he can’t be wrong on his scout of Juan yet he is. He’s gotta praise him over and over more than any other player.
I remember he was at top golf talking about how great Kian is and oh nba scouts see it in practice…what a bunch of fodder. If Juan played 35 mpg in 2022 we get bounced to creighton. Bill’s revisionist history is brutal for the program right now
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@kuballin10 It’s a team sport my man. It’s not all that matters, doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter. And an individual’s impact on winning is much more significant in basketball than in football. you are 1 of 11 on a football field but only 1 of 5 on a basketball court.
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@benshawks08 Remy won us that title because stubborn Bill played him 20 mpg
We aren’t getting the pac 12 player of the year to sit the bench nor will juan not start
We are in the same position next year
Juan has been responsible for 3 round of 32 losses two which are blowouts. Want to talk about the offenses he ran on those teams?
Mason and Graham would never have let that happen but yeah let’s talk the d2 pg up because he stepped on the line on a simple in bounds about blowing all of remy’s work the final 12 minutes with clutch shot after clutch shot when ochai shelled up being locked down by a freshman off the bench….
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@kuballin10 Your right. I see dudes at the y run pick and roll and drop a perfect lob over their shoulder while moving the other way all the time. Lol. I see them jump out of bounds to create angles to give their shooter on the wing an on the money pass right in the shooting pocket once a week!
3 less assists for 8 more points a game plus a turnover is essentially a wash. 3 assists = 6-9 points.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@benshawks08 Remy won us that title because stubborn Bill played him 20 mpg
We aren’t getting the pac 12 player of the year to sit the bench nor will juan not start
We are in the same position next year
Juan has been responsible for 3 round of 32 losses two which are blowouts. Want to talk about the offenses he ran on those teams?
Mason and Graham would never have let that happen but yeah let’s talk the d2 pg up because he stepped on the line on a simple in bounds about blowing all of remy’s work the final 12 minutes with clutch shot after clutch shot when ochai shelled up being locked down by a freshman off the bench….
This is a new argument that I’ve never heard from you before. Did you just come up with it?
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 it would be impossible to say Zeke is better than Juan at this point. If the staff thinks he can push Juan for minutes bring him in. Competition makes everyone better something that escapes this generation.
Zeke turns it over like crazy in the SUMMIT league. He is not a PG at the Big 12 level period.
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Just a reminder…the “Block” button is your friend.
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@mayjay where’s the fun in that! Lol
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Made Kugel’s final four.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Made Kugel’s final four.
What hole does he fill, and what does he do well. Just don’t see it.
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@Woodrow said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Made Kugel’s final four.
What hole does he fill, and what does he do well. Just don’t see it.
I’m not a fan at all. This would be darn near Arterio level baffling for me if he ends up here.
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Given his four options it sure seems like coaches think there’s a lot of potential there.
ETA: 17.3/49.6/ 39.6 points/FG%/3% in SEC play as a frosh. If you get that dude he’s a lottery pick
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@BShark Yeah that .7 turnover differential compared to Juan is just horrible…I mean do you even check the facts or just roll with your fake narrative?
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@benshawks08 You ever play ball before?
Juan leaving his feet under the basket to throw a pass to the corner is not what William would attribute to a good or fundamental play
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Close to predicting Kansas here. Wild shit.
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@BShark for whom? Riley Kugel?
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@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark for whom? Riley Kugel?
Yeah. Don’t love it but the talent is there
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What are the red flags people are talking about with Kugel?
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@Woodrow On the court his performance was terrible. Huge regression from the end of his freshman season while he committed 2 turnovers playing only 23 minutes. That said he’s got a NBA tool kit
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AJ Storr from Wisconsin is officially in the portal. Now that is where we need to be looking.
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@Woodrow said in Transfer Rumblings:
Fighting with coaches/team mates, mentally checking out after losing his starting spot. Stuff like that.
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@Woodrow said in Transfer Rumblings:
AJ Storr from Wisconsin is officially in the portal. Now that is where we need to be looking.
Rumor is Illinois is the early leader. Iirc he is from Illinois.
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Storr is also going through the draft process so this one could drag out for a LONG time even if he does commit somewhere
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Do you guys get the sense that the staff is working hard + smart this portal season?
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@approxinfinity said in Transfer Rumblings:
Do you guys get the sense that the staff is working hard + smart this portal season?
Hard yes, smart impossible to say until it is done.
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@approxinfinity it’s definitely a shotgun approach but they’ve identified lots of needs and types of guys that could fill those
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@BShark Why would anyone want that on their team? How many times does a person magically mature enough to not bring that toxicity with them?
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@BShark That program is on the rise….Underwood spent extensive time with Jay Wright that’s changed who/how he recruits and has adjusted his offensive style. His team this year is by far better than ours because of it and he lost some last year to the portal…quite the reload and they took to this new system quick……
Wish Bill would adjust
Underwood I think takes the reins when Self leaves if he can get to a final 4 or two at ILL
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@patoh3 I might disagree with @bshark on random bs about coaching ect but if bshark says a dude is trouble you better listen up.
He was spot on with Morris and it bit us in the @$$
And he’s saying it again with Kugel….youd think Bill would learn
@bshark get on staff cause someone needs to tell these guys we don’t need quitters and turds
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@Woodrow Along with @wissox I also follow Wisconsin. Storr is an electric athlete and scored at a high clip this year. That said…he had more than questionable shot selection, plays exactly no defense, isn’t a good ball handler and shot over 50% in a game in 7 of 36 games. He would drive Bill Self absolutely crazy. As much as he helped Wisconsin at times this year, his offensive inefficiency really hurt them at time. And he completely no-showed in their tournament game. Pass for me
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Kugel and Johnson would be a strong start
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All the Illinois chatter for Storr seems to be premature
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
All the Illinois chatter for Storr seems to be premature
Wisconsin 247 guy saying to watch for Kansas and Ole Miss
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Not sure I’d want Storr at KU as Foco said. Spectacular athleticism, but poor handles and a matador defender. I think he would drive Bill Self crazy. While he is from Illinois, he’s from Rockford, a quick hour drive up 90 to Madison.
It would be interesting at least to watch a former Badger suit up for us next year, but I’m not sure he’s the answer for our problems.
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Bobby Pettiford back in the portal after one year at ECU.
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His defense is a little mystifying. With those tools he should be a plus on ball defender at least.
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@kuballin10 - Really shouldn’t be leaving your feet anytime when making a pass . -you get caught, you have to force the pass a lot of times, because you know you have that internal clock , knowing you got to get rid of the ball before you land
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Storr has been to 7 schools in 7 years man…
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https://x.com/Sully_2029/status/1773526610597294562?s=20
Hurley and uconn got today’s game and the portal figured out….gonna go back to back
5 titles since 2004 and 6 if you stretch it to 1999
Uconn absolutely dominating the last two decades
Could you fathom us going back to back? No way would Bills system be able to do that with freshman and even transfers. He only works if guys stick around 3-4 years which isn’t gonna happen in todays college game
Hurley, Underwood….guys who emulate Jay Wright will succeed in today’s game. Dumb down the offense, dribble drive, Chuck threes, get out and runnnnnn…….defend outside in with good help defense in the paint
People will quote consistency which is worthless without capitalizing on it when it matters most. You either cash in and deliver by winning it all or choke.
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Am I the only one that cares or finds it unfathomable that last year and this year the 1 and 4 spots are guaranteed starters with not even 1 ounce of reconsideration from a hof coach to truly look at how to better his team???
I’m reading oh bills bringing in competition…I mean what media fed bs. He can do that all he wants but the comp won’t be that good because transfers know they won’t be the starting ball dominate guard because d2 is here and they can be the more skilled less athletic 4 and don’t have a chance……
I think I’m the only one that doesn’t sunshine pump about oh we’ve won the little 12 what consistency….uconns about to have 5 titles in 20 years. Don’t even act like you’d rather have our run the last 20 years over that…….
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Am I the only one that cares or finds it unfathomable that last year and this year the 1 and 4 spots are guaranteed starters with not even 1 ounce of reconsideration from a hof coach to truly look at how to better his team???
I’m reading oh bills bringing in competition…I mean what media fed bs. He can do that all he wants but the comp won’t be that good because transfers know they won’t be the starting ball dominate guard because d2 is here and they can be the more skilled less athletic 4 and don’t have a chance……
I think I’m the only one that doesn’t sunshine pump about oh we’ve won the little 12 what consistency….uconns about to have 5 titles in 20 years. Don’t even act like you’d rather have our run the last 20 years over that…….
I think there should be competition but we know how coach works. Dajuan is his guy and will never be benched
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Bobby Pettiford back in the portal after one year at ECU.
Kind of lost on this one. I think talent wise that’s where he belonged
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@TYOHawk It was what his redshirt jr year (Juan) and took the all pac 12 player for him not to start a few games but once he (remy) was injured juan started from then on out.
For some reason the connected guys on here don’t like to talk about what people in the ball world know about how bill has his “guys” and you don’t have any legitimate chance to play. That combined with his difficult system to learn and quick hook for mistakes is the reason we don’t always land who we want. Other coaches know how to be honest and talk about different programs without coming across as trashing the competition.
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@kuballin10 there’s nothing HS coaches love more than to complain that x college program won’t recruit my kids because they’re sooooo good. Like look 99.99% of your players suck and I’m sorry your coach didn’t put you in back in the day since clearly you would’ve won state then. It’s worse in football but basketball has more than its share of delusional people that think hey if you let me coach at Kansas I could outdo Bill Self when they couldn’t sniff his jock. So yeah, I don’t put a lot of stock in that.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk It was what his redshirt jr year (Juan) and took the all pac 12 player for him not to start a few games but once he (remy) was injured juan started from then on out.
For some reason the connected guys on here don’t like to talk about what people in the ball world know about how bill has his “guys” and you don’t have any legitimate chance to play. That combined with his difficult system to learn and quick hook for mistakes is the reason we don’t always land who we want. Other coaches know how to be honest and talk about different programs without coming across as trashing the competition.
Bill has his favorites for sure. Sometimes they’re great players ie Frank or Devonte. Sometimes they’re solid players with rough upbringings who probably play too much ie Jamari and Dajuan.
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@FarmerJayhawk My comment wasn’t about hs coaches at all……or aau circles….its about other D1 programs.
Your response sounds like some arrogance out of Naismith drive meanwhile they are getting passed by because other programs are adjusting while ours doesn’t.
It’s well known how Bill runs things and yes, there’s a lack of talent evaluation along with pairing your philosophy and scheme with what today’s players excel at.
There’s a reason be it Houston or Baylor or isu have better guards than us let alone the Unc’ s, dukes and UConn’s of the world right now….
I don’t care if you put stock in it or not it’s the truth and it’s blatantly out there amongst the circles……
