Not paying for ESPN this year





  • @FarmerJayhawk there is prob some truth o that but they didn’t go on national TV as a host and say it.



  • I’m not maga by any stretch of imagination I think Trump is a dipshit 90% of time I just call out hypocrisy and false accusations when I see them. Y’all can put on my head stone “He believe the facts and truth mattered over propaganda”. Any of y’all remember Twitter getting sued and losing for silencing and having incorrect fact checking against conservative posts? About Gina Carano fired from Disney for saying she didn’t support BLM? About Hank Williams Jrs song removed from Monday night football for negative remarks towards Obama? I could prob look up another 25 instances but I think you got my point their wasn’t any posts or complaints when that happened. Are you gonna cheer on the arsonist in the neighborhood til he gets to your house?



  • No, I oppose cancel culture and wrote at the time how the Biden administration jawboning social media companies was dangerous.

    This is also very different from those instances because the FCC has threatened ABC’s license. At least for me, violating the First Amendment is much worse than a private company doing something dumb.



  • I think @kjayhawks the main thread of this conversation seems to be about how troubling it is that the federal government is perhaps overstepping its authority and using the threat of government action on what should qualify as free speech.

    We can all have our opinions on what Kimmel said, fine. It’s not about him or other people getting fired for their words. That’s not really the point here.

    But, when the Trump administration punishes broadcasters just because he feels their comedic bits don’t match with his opinion … well, that’s censorship. A serious violation of our civil liberties.

    What or who is next??? scary



  • @kjayhawks The difference between the situations you’ve mentioned and what happened with Kimmel, and Stephen Colbert for that matter is that their cancelations came as a direct result of FCC meddling and interference. The chair of the FCC has already said they’re going after the View next.



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 @FarmerJayhawk maybe I’m off base and little off topic. I just don’t think it’s right that anyone with remotely right wing train of thought for the last decade and half had been silenced outside of the garbage known as Fox News. Could you imagine the back lash if De Niro said F Obama or Biden when he accepted an award. You can’t say blacklisted fast enough. I will move on from the thread. I have spoken my opinion on the matter. I zero issue with the government stepping in to prevent fake news and unjust propaganda.



  • If you have (as I do) at least a faint trepidation that this thread could be mined in the future to be used against you, and choosing words very carefully, then you should be able to appreciate the chilling effect of these actions by the FCC and current administration.

    It’s a bit hard to get my head around why the President of the United States is engaging even one brain cell on late night TV. Let alone targeting American comedians (he tweeted that Fallon should be cancelled next). His tweet low-key sounded like the Emperor in Star Wars: “Do it NBC!!!”

    Why he is targeting Jimmy Fallon like he’s Saddam Hussein?

    Fallon is an anodyne comedian but the President is acting like there’s a stash of WMD at 30 Rock… maybe hidden behind his desk??

    Insane.



  • @kjayhawks “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”





  • @kjayhawks You bring up some good points and this is nothing new. For many years both sides of the political spectrum have been censoring the other and then turning around and complaining when the other side censors. It would be nice if more people called out both parties but unfortunately people will just continue to criticize the other party’s censorship while ignoring that of their own.



  • @kjayhawks said in Not paying for ESPN this year:

    @Texas-Hawk-10 @FarmerJayhawk maybe I’m off base and little off topic. I just don’t think it’s right that anyone with remotely right wing train of thought for the last decade and half had been silenced outside of the garbage known as Fox News. Could you imagine the back lash if De Niro said F Obama or Biden when he accepted an award. You can’t say blacklisted fast enough. I will move on from the thread. I have spoken my opinion on the matter. I zero issue with the government stepping in to prevent fake news and unjust propaganda.

    Thanks for confirming that you support government censorship and are anti-1st amendment.



  • @Jhawk69 said in Not paying for ESPN this year:

    @kjayhawks You bring up some good points and this is nothing new. For many years both sides of the political spectrum have been censoring the other and then turning around and complaining when the other side censors. It would be nice if more people called out both parties but unfortunately people will just continue to criticize the other party’s censorship while ignoring that of their own.

    Right that’s all I’m saying, I am 100% for freedom of speech but inciting violence over inaccuracies I’m not okay with



  • ???



  • And Kimmel is back. Funny, funny times



  • Ultimately Disney and ABC are businesses and care much, much more about money than they do political agendas.



  • My 2 year old is thrilled he doesn’t have to give up his cars 1 and 3 addiction after all.



  • It’ll be interesting to see if Sinclair and Nexstar affiliates run the show.



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Not paying for ESPN this year:

    It’ll be interesting to see if Sinclair and Nexstar affiliates run the show.

    Sinclair is a no https://x.com/wearesinclair/status/1970266039532306593?s=46



  • So no jimmy?



  • Affiliates can choose to show whatever they want in the time slot.

    ABC, however, has more distribution channels than just the affiliates. So they can continue to produce the show and make it available to other affiliates as well as on streaming (Hulu/Disney+) and YouTube etc and continue to generate revenue from it.

    I may not have this right but I think the way it works is that a show like Kimmel’s comes with national advertising revenue that is shared with affiliates when they air it. So Sinclair is choosing to decline that rev-share. It’s probably a relatively small amount.



  • @benshawks08 cars two is so terrible



  • @kjayhawks why is it so bad?! Glad they at least came back strong with cars 3. Also “planes” is unwatchable even for the toddler.



  • @benshawks08 yes cars and cars 3 are definitely in my top 5 of Disney and Pixar. Planes is okay not great but decent. Brave is better than frozen IMO. Big hero 6 not Pixar but very underrated. Cars two is just Mators crap show lol.



  • @Jhawk69 right. But suspending JK makes a few people think that they give a crap.


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