The portal.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Cowerd, if he takes a visit anywhere could be telling to his destination according to Joe Tipton. He may already have a team in mind. We shall see. Also going through the draft process. His injury that he suffered early in the season sounded significant and reportedly was a 6 month recovery from November when he got injured. I’d like to say I’m not concerned about a dude coming off a major injury but then again we already got a few of them on the roster and you really can’t be fooling around with getting another guy that might not be healthy when he gets here
He’s worth the risk imo.
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
I’ve seen KU make it happen for a football player I grew up with. I have no doubt they could make things work with Tyran.
Light work
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Boy seems like been a even more crazy off Season this year in the portal. Teams losing massive amount of players , noticing more in our Conference . I mean K/State losing so many- – again but that’s normal with them , but was surfing this morning and didn’t realize till I saw that BAYLOR has lost it’s entire roster ,everyone that played a single minute of Basketball for them last year is gone MERCY.
This NIL/Portal has really changed the landscape of College Basketball-- not sure if it’s for the good of the game either
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I don’t recall who, but an espn radio jockey was talking about college football and the portal. He said they better figure things out to stabilize college football with contracts - you don’t want it turning into college basketball where you can’t recognize a roster from year to year. It makes it hard on the fans when they don’t know who they’re rooting for.
Yikes. College basketball is the cautionary tale for football at this point. What a mess this is.
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Will be interesting to see how Storr does next year and compare his last 3 seasons with KU in the middle.
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Sooooo… we are all sitting on our hands, awaiting news on our portal grabs or even possibly having 2 #1 picks playing on the same team next year.
I read where most of the guys in the portal are still there. What a friggin’ zoo!
Are people in here optimistic or pessimistic on our current situation? Seems like there is plenty of negativity out there, but I’m usually suspicious of it being purple kitty trolls. They should be focused on their own transfer problems.
To me, it feels like we are in the running for some good players and Self is being more careful and refined this year to attempt to have a better result than last year. I’d like to know where our NIL budget sits right now. Anyone have a clue?
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I’m hoping maybe we could pull Coward in and also a quality back up still at the five behind Flory, /i don’t really feel all that firred up about Stokes, as I really don’t think in the end were going to land him. So not getting my hopes up at all there.
I think if anything Stokes is using his KU visit to set the bar as to how much it’s going to take to buy him to play for his year at some School. using Ku as a higher brand name to start the bar high.-- I’ve even seen in a couple of other places where BYU has they hand trying to steal another one with their NIL Money for Stokes.
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@drgnslayr All I know is there is a big push to get as much money right now before the ruling on NCAA direct payments puts a salary cap on it. Basically breaking the salary cap before it’s in place. More loopholes to come…
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The rumor about how much Zach Clemence got is WILD.
850k…
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Ha @BShark
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Council news to tonight
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Four more to go! Make em count, Bill.
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It’s official! Council is a hawk
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Lee committed to Florida
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How many years does Council have left? It looks like he has only played D1 ball for two years.
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Tyran Stokes come on down…
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@drgnslayr you keep making these posts that i think should be their own threads!
I am optimistic. I probably need to temper my optimism more than I am.
I’m sure our team won’t always look like a high ceiling, high floor roster full of alphadawgs once the season starts, like they appear to be when they’re bright, shiny signees.
There will be stumbles, there will be underperformers.
But none of the signees thus far have seemed like bad fits, or guys I don’t want to root for (Hunter, when his transfer to us was announced). None of them seem soft, or contact averse. All of them seem to have demonstrated leadership qualities on their teams. All of them appear to be interested in playing some defense. Bill has seemed involved in the recruitment.
We retained Flory.
I’m happy and excited about basketball again, but I would be happier still to see some staff shakeup and when we see the roster rounded out.
If we get 4 more guys cut from the same cloth as those we have already acquired, it could be something special.
Looking forward to no crutches, no excuses, and no bullshit. Bring your hard hats and man up boys.
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Stokes shoots it a little better than given credit for too. 30% on 2.6/game last year. The FT% is a little concerning but he took almost 10/game. Just silly
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@BShark said in The portal.:
The rumor about how much Zach Clemence got is WILD.
850k…
Does that come with expectations?
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Wish I could say I’m tickled as a peach about Council , but reality is he has track record of another player we have had recently that can’t shoot, his percentages lack, I just hope we can still do better, Now if w happen some how to get Stokes THAT is a real coup or Coward would be sweet too
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I am rather tickled. Not quite as much as a peach but about as much as a tangerine I would say.
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@BeddieKU23 So, he seems like a solid rotation piece, but more than that? Did we choose Council over Lee, or did Lee choose Florida over us?
If the former, do we think HCBS and staff is better at talent evaluation than Golden and the UF staff? Gators just won the Natty without a single top 100 recruit.
Are White, Dawson and Council better than portal guys signed by 2-3 dozen other schools, including some in the B12?
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@DCHawker I personally think the Council fit is better than Lee would have been. Lee certainly has upside but he was a bit too ball dominant next to DP, and was a poor catch and shoot guy.
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We got a kid from…St. Bonaventure. Wow, KU basketball is so back.
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@wissox not like those guys who originally committed to Towson and Appalachian State.
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@DCHawker You know I’d be the first to agree regarding scouting guys but the issue is more the system
Will be another good year to compare transfers and how they pan out council vs Lee
I think the staff is adjusting and I think Council is eerily similar to Tyshawn. He’s the better get for Self’s system so I’m happy with it. Good defender - produces turnovers and more athletic. His 3 ball looks like Tyshawn’s and he doesn’t shy away from the big moment.
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark What’s the starting lineup looking like
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@kuballin10 too early to say. 4 more roster spots to fill. Another starter and a backup big are the main priorities right now. But as of 11:28 PM 4/16 it’s DP, Council, Dawson, White, Flory.
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Yea the core of the rotation has been built. I think the staff is taking home run swings on another wing before they just add.
Does anyone know, isn’t the window only open like 5 more days?
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Yes to enter, unless coaching change occurs after the portal closes. Those players get 30 days to decide. Also have the draft guys that could pull out but those will be known dudes
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@approxinfinity Whadya mean, those schools were major powers back then! Good point though, but my comment just reflects my general mood on all of this portal madness.
Scott Drew has zero guys on his team right now. Portal madness X100.
College football players who portalled back in December are now portalling again in the spring portal period.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
@kuballin10 too early to say. 4 more roster spots to fill. Another starter and a backup big are the main priorities right now. But as of 11:28 PM 4/16 it’s DP, Council, Dawson, White, Flory.
Therein lies the problem. Decent 5 to have on the floor for stretches, but is that really a line-up that can compete for a B12 title, let alone make a run in the tournament? 4 guards/wings, and an undersized 5. No real shooters. The recent formula for championships and FF success is 3 guards/wings who can attack the rim, hit 35%+ from 3, and defend the perimeter, and 2 mobile, rangy bigs who can set screens, execute the pick and roll, rebound, and defend both on the perimeter and at the rim (they don’t have to be scorers other than lobs and put backs). We need another wing who is a starter ahead of Council, Dawson, White, and a starting caliber 4-5 to rotate, not just back up Flory. Would also be good to have a true point guard, even if just as a bench piece.
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I’m not saying the roster is championship level, but I do disagree agree with the 2 big idea. We won the championship recently with 4 guards. In 2020 we had the best team with 4 guards. Our 3 years In a row of elite 8/final four Devonte frank etc were 4 guards. I think it’s a small sample size to say you need two rangy bigs. I do think however you have to have size and length at the two guards that play the 3 and 4. Advantage is if all 4 guards can shoot, which maybe the thing you’re getting at. I think we will definitely have an athletic team that can run. Excited to see that vs slow Hunter jogging down the court
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I don’t think you can play two bigs unless your 4 is athletic and can shoot like Marcus Morris. We’ve struggled bc we’ve played two bigs and they both can’t shoot lol
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@DCHawker that’s why I added the disclaimer. We’re not done adding.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker that’s why I added the disclaimer. We’re not done adding.
They have the #1 player in the 2026 class (who could potentially reclassify) visiting
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Council is the better fit here and is the opposite of what we have had in the backcourt recently. Fast, athletic and does a lot of things that should compliment others here. It’s a solid take that could end up really good. They targeted him and from what’s been posted about this kid, he seems like someone that’s a good fit for Self on both ends. We shall see.
Lee was always Florida it sounded. We gave it a shot.
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I also think we will push for another starter/hopefully a wing. Council could end up a 6th man type/ or Dawson depending on the next couple additions. Really would give Self some flexibility with lineups
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@BShark said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker that’s why I added the disclaimer. We’re not done adding.
They have the #1 player in the 2026 class (who could potentially reclassify) visiting
Trying to gauge just how good Stokes is. Film just shows dunks in transition and some high level athletic ability. He reminds me of a more athletic Jalen Wilson, straight line speed and aggressiveness. I like the fit here but just wondering how much he could really impact a team if he joined.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker that’s why I added the disclaimer. We’re not done adding.
They have the #1 player in the 2026 class (who could potentially reclassify) visiting
Trying to gauge just how good Stokes is. Film just shows dunks in transition and some high level athletic ability. He reminds me of a more athletic Jalen Wilson, straight line speed and aggressiveness. I like the fit here but just wondering how much he could really impact a team if he joined.
FWIW I would have taken Zion Williamson. Similar (smaller) mold.
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@jayhawks2010 said in The portal.:
I don’t think you can play two bigs unless your 4 is athletic and can shoot like Marcus Morris. We’ve struggled bc we’ve played two bigs and they both can’t shoot lol
Florida rotated 4 bigs, almost always 2 on the floor. Only one could shoot. Houston rotated 3 bigs, none of whom had an outside shot. Auburn played two bigs, one of them a scorer. Duke played one true big, but 3 and 4 were 6’11’ and 6’8’. Michigan played 2 bigs. TTU had a starting line-up similar in size to our current projected, but Toppin > Flory and Williams > White. Fredericko also played almost 20mpg. UConn teams only had one true big, but he was dominant and they had a lot of size across the line-up - 6’4" to 6’8".
The problem isn’t with necessarily 2 bigs that can’t shoot - it’s that the past two years we haven’t had guards/wings who could attack the paint and finish at the rim and/or consistently hit from the arc. Both shortcomings are why we have had double digit losses and early exits.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker that’s why I added the disclaimer. We’re not done adding.
They have the #1 player in the 2026 class (who could potentially reclassify) visiting
Trying to gauge just how good Stokes is. Film just shows dunks in transition and some high level athletic ability. He reminds me of a more athletic Jalen Wilson, straight line speed and aggressiveness. I like the fit here but just wondering how much he could really impact a team if he joined.
I am in agreement. I think the kid looks like a freak of nature. But, to sound very old man yelling at clouds, his immaturity on the court shows up in his highlight film like crazy. I love the identity this team seems to have right now. I’m not sure Stokes naturally fits into it.
I would much prefer dropping the bag to go get Coward than add Stokes if given he choice.
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I think KU has 4 of their 5 starters for next season and most of the rotation.
I don’t see Council starting over Jackson (I know people will argue that one, but Council doesn’t scream Big 12 starter to me, at least KU level starter). I also don’t think Dawson should start either.
Right now, I’d roll with Jackson, Peterson, White, ???, and Flory to start with Council, Dawson, ???, and Tiller/??? as the rotation pieces off the bench.
This team won’t be a great shooting team, but on paper at least, it looks like this team should be an above average scoring team and defend at an elite level. This absolutely looks like a Bill Self basketball team at this point on paper.
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Rakease visited Miami and will now visit Tennessee. Working on one to Auburn as well. I think of all the guys that left this will be the one that ages badly for us…
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@BShark said in The portal.:
Rakease visited Miami and will now visit Tennessee. Working on one to Auburn as well. I think of all the guys that left this will be the one that ages badly for us…
Interesting take. He didn’t show anything in his brief time in Lawrence. Are you basing that off his HS production? Seems like he could be a glue guy, maybe. But I’ve underestimated players before.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Agree re Council. Seems like a really solid rotation guy willing to go hard when he is in. But, a starter? A <15ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure? FG% 44%. 3pt% 30%. Just 2 FTAs per game averaging 37 minutes. Against much lower competition. Just 6’4’’ and 180lbs. Not sure how he will measure up against other B12 guards/wings. Same with Dawson. 14ppg for a double digit loss team in the A-10. Just 41% from the field. Also 6’4" and 185lbs. White also seems like a solid rotation piece, but just 10ppg for an okay Illinois team and just 23mpg. Is he really a starter on a team that aspires to titles? 6’7’’ and 210lbs. Not really a 4 and doesn’t shoot well enough from outside to be a 2-3?
All good rotation players, but starters??? Are we going to have to get 25ppg+ from DP?
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@dylans Self did like him and I think his interest is telling as well. Heck of an athlete for sure. Still a young kid and Self’s substitution patterns did him no favors. I felt this way when Zuby left as well. He is one the staff would have taken back but with our plan and commits so far I understand his decision.
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@BShark Do we know why he even left?
Like did he actually expect to get big minutes based on who was in front of him? I just don’t get what happened here.
