KState game thread
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RCJHKU
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@Jhawk69 that’s what Hanni and Gurley were saying, KJ brings that energy and the kid can play defense for sure
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KState game thread:
@BShark ok, Ned!
We have no answer for Coleman when Flory is on the bench. Was a big issue all game. Made KSU’s offense look good.
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Fly by shake, such a stand up coach!
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Ugly, but I’ll take it. Good guys win again
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@Crimsonorblue22 purple? More like blur-ple
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I said if we lost I was done with this team and then I said if we couldn’t at least win by double digits it would feel like a loss. Haha we win by 10, 2-0 on the day my son’s team won this morning. Let’s go Chiefs!
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Nice. I coached 6-7 year olds this morning. It doesnt get any better. Savoring it.
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@BeddieKU23 What would be the point of calling for others to play instead of KJ if people didn’t believe that doing so would make us better?
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A conference win is a win. By 30 or by 1. We all know this after watching decades of KU ball. B12 is gonna be a dogfight as per usual.
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@SlimShaddy54 True! I sync Hanni and Gurley to my tv every game.
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Raftery told Hunter “great game and didnt take a 3, Bill will be happy!” Lol
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Probably the best game they have played at home in conference play so far. Can only get better i hope
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Hey Ned’s, I said Juan and kj love KU, Hunt does too, he always says Rock Chalk!
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Our formula going forward is we have three scorers Hunt, Mayo and Juan and we need more points from them every game like this as there is none coming elsewhere. I would say 55 - 60 which they can get. Our bench is just not going to hit threes like I hoped. This way we will be in any game and that’s all we can ask. Good home win.
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Ha and Uconn lost. Icing.
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@Jhawk69 said in KState game thread:
@BeddieKU23 What would be the point of calling for others to play instead of KJ if people didn’t believe that doing so would make us better?
I honestly don’t think KJ would’ve made a big difference in this one either way. We had every chance to run them out of the gym. We probably win by a little more with on defense with how bad Passmore, Griffen and Storr were on that end.
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AJ with 17 minutes, Rylan with 12 minutes and no shot attempts. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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Hunter with 25 points (12/19), 8 boards, 3 assists. His defense sucks but he can offense
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@KirkIsMyHinrich he can offend?
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Zeke with 24 (7/12) 5 boards, 3 assists. He is our best player.
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@approxinfinity said in KState game thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich he can offend?
Judging by the comments I read about him from neutrals every game, he can.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich ya really not a lot to complain about with the starters outside of some of the expected freshman mistakes of Flory. The bench was just flat out gross today. Storr at least scored a little so it helped but defensively that ain’t gonna cut it.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich By far , hands down
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@KirkIsMyHinrich This played out exactly like I said- - I called out and said after the ISU game I said watch Dickinson will come back with twenty and twelve , because that what he does.
Plays well against Average bigs, - -average teams, but you put him up against equally as tall/talented Big’s – just like against ISU he is pretty much a non factor. - -Let’s see if he will produce for us like this against Houston , or when ISU comes back around again, don’t gt your hopes up
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I’m a little disappointed in the effort. I didn’t have as much of a problem with playing time (except that stretch with Kease and Diggy) but there were way too many lapses. Giving up 45 in the second to an absolute garbage team is straight bad. Gotta clean that up before Wednesday.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in KState game thread:
I’m a little disappointed in the effort. I didn’t have as much of a problem with playing time (except that stretch with Kease and Diggy) but there were way too many lapses. Giving up 45 in the second to an absolute garbage team is straight bad. Gotta clean that up before Wednesday.
Notably we did not see Diggy in the 2nd half.
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We can’t play two negative guys at the same time. Gotta sub one guy at a time. What r your thoughts about rylan?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KState game thread:
We can’t play two negative guys at the same time. Gotta sub one guy at a time. What r your thoughts about rylan?
Had some good moments today. Drive and kick out but the guy he passed to missed wide open looks. Was surprised he played less than Storr.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KState game thread:
We can’t play two negative guys at the same time. Gotta sub one guy at a time. What r your thoughts about rylan?
He was definitely a mixed bag. The one drive and turnover was absolutely awful but he did have the nice assist to Hunt. TCU is a better matchup for him.
They play mostly smaller around old friend Big Ern so it should be a good AJ/Griffen game. I really like our guards vs. theirs as well. Allete is the loosest cannon and Shak/Juan will really bother him. Reynolds is a lot better but those two guys are really their entire offense.
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A lot of the time we don’t seem to run any offense that’s going to get Rylan open looks
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Diggy turned down shots on couple of good looks
He seemed tentative
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KU missed KJ’s energy today. Giving up 74 to KSU who is flat out terrible this season. If they play like this on Wednesday, they’re losing to TCU.
The defense was terrible and KU lost the game after the first media timeout. After KU went up 14-0, KSU outscored them 74-70 the rest of the game.
For me personally, there wasn’t a lot to feel good about today’s game if KJ ends up missing extended time.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 = = I couldn’t get much feel good out of this today either. Kinda puts a damper and I really don’t have much expectations after today.
Our defense went back to it’s old habits of just getting or giving up way to many open shots or lay ups. I mean come on let’s face it K/State sucks , but they can make lay ups, open ten footers. Thank God they were not good at the free throw line, this team is just really disappointing.
Say what you want about KJ - -it showed out there today -I really like Flory but Flory and who Griffin took his spot today - -What did they score- -Eight points- - Hell KJ can do that, but I’m not getting into all that now- - let’s be real this is far from a Championship team, some glaring decencies we are not that athletic, and it shows- -just kind of frustrating, depressing but it is what it is- -Seems like Zeke is the only one that can’t make three’s consistency. -ya sure not thumping my chest after this one. -I looked and I figured out how I think we end record. Looks like about 23-8 to me, maybe 22-9 not typical record of KU past years
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KState game thread:
AJ with 17 minutes, Rylan with 12 minutes and no shot attempts. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
I wasn’t able to watch the game, so don’t know how they looked on the court, but the combined stat line is awful. As you note, 29 minutes combined. Basically a full game. 7 points. 6 shot attempts, all Storr. 2 rebounds (zero defensive). 1 assist.
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Zeke Mayo Highlights vs. Kansas State (24 Pts, 5 Rebs, 3 Asts)
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@sabramo19 Thanks!
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On to TCU on Wednesday at Fort Worth. This is a good opportunity to pick up a needed road win. Udeh at 8 ppg, 8 rpg. 1.5 bpg.
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Iowa St down 1 at half to WVU in a barn burner so far
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@DCHawker If you shoot and miss and it’s a shot that Self doesn’t like……u will be sitting next to him within seconds
I wouldn’t pull the trigger either and just try to defend and rebound
Neutered
Wish Bill would coach every player with the same favoritism, confidence and leeway and he gives Juan and KJ. Just all sorts of confidence and wry smiles when they mess up versus just being pissed every time other players aren’t legitimately perfect (meanwhile his “guys” eff up regularly and get the doors blown off them in 2.5 years more than any other Self team)
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What happened? I couldn’t stay awake to watch it. BORING!
Guess we won. Doesn’t feel like it and that performance should knock us down a couple notches in the rankings.
ZEKE remains our only alpha player.
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I’m glad I ain’t the only one not impressed after today
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@drgnslayr you can’t make that decision w/out watching it. Hunt played good, so did Juan. Flory really had a good start, got a few fouls but did help. We did miss kj’s D. They got to within 6 but we made our throws. IMO we gave the bench too much leash. And as always Zeke!
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Always nice to beat the sheep lovers!
Fun with the boxscore:
16-21 FTs
We attempted 21 FTs!!! That is fantastic for us.
Of those with double digit minutes played
AJ Storr was -11 in +/-
Hunter and Zeke were 20+ point scorers / and Dajuan with 15, filling that third scorer role mostly necessary to win. Sure wish Rylan or AJ would fill this role, or be a fourth double digit scorer
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@kjayhawks This is what happens when you don’t contend for your conference let alone a title
You have similar guys from the last two years rd 32 losses playing the same minutes and same way resulting in bad double digit losses to teams we shouldn’t lose to
It is sadly obvious and the fanbase sees this as well - if you’ve noticed the empty seats for home games lately
I go back to my post two weeks ago that this squad isn’t a title contender and the way this team is coached isn’t helping either. All this was supposed to be fixed by the $10M man who’s gotten his crap rocked last year
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I think we need KJ but not at 28 minutes a game. Especially not that many minutes if he’s going to shoot 50% from the field for a guy that doesn’t shoot anywhere but from the foul line in. And for reference its 10% below his shooting % of his previous 2 yrs as a starter.
The short roll that worked last yr so much to generate o for him has been scouted out. It’s a scheme issue that we are putting KJ on the perimeter in position to be lightly or not guarded at all in my opinion. It’s year 2 of this and we don’t see any real adjustment.
KJ probably has earned his minutes by what he’s done the past 3 1/2 years but nobody does enough of what coach wants to beat him out.
When watching the game yesterday the 4 spot was a major concern.
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Wednesday is a must win. This is the worst TCU team Dixon has had in his tenure perhaps.
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@BeddieKU23 said in KState game thread:
Wednesday is a must win. This is the worst TCU team Dixon has had in his tenure perhaps.
Should be a better match-up for KJ-less KU as well. Kstate is BAD, but posed a real match-up problem with Hawkins.
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Yeah it does look like a favorable matchup at the 4. I’m surprised at the lack of talent on this frogs team tbh. Will only matter if we win though
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I would love to see a little more Griffen and Storr in Fort Worth. I think we played Flory a bit too much vs KSU with Hawkins. Would like to see a little more 4 guard with the right combination in this next one. Offense seems to not flow well with Shak and Juan out so we need to do better at subbing them IMO.
