Cretins From Craytin Game Thread
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@drgnslayr Hmm. Interesting. In case you don’t already know, I’ve always liked and respected you. I may be misunderstanding this post though. Are you saying that Self didn’t really coach to the best of his ability this game on purpose? Like, just let them play and see if they can figure it out? I mean, that’s a possibility. If it were true though, I would have zero respect for him. Let them figure out how to come back from looking like complete morons by listening to good coaching - that would elevate him and the team. I don’t know. It’s early. I’m gonna go get some coffee…
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Not completely like that… but did you notice he wasn’t on the sidelines being all animated like he was in past games?
This was a game where the fellas really needed a charge from the sidelines. He seemed absent to me.
I have a lot of faith in Self. If he did this… they needed it. I’ve seen other teams we’ve had that barely lose any games all year then flop in the tournament. I don’t think our guys are so big headed… but maybe they just aren’t progressing as quick as he would like them to. Maybe.
We are coming up to XMas break… lots of extra practice… and the coaches need plenty of things to hammer these guys on!
This is my theory… Ask me what is the best bait to catch alligators. It’s chicken! lol
My backseat coaching is pretty comfortable. Big huge ol’ lazyboy recliner without a single person questioning my ideas while I spew them during games. lol
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Whats more important, career win 807 or a valuable lesson? I have agreed with you for a long time on this @drgnslayr
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I was pretty shocked the 2nd half comeback fell apart. We blitzed them early in the half with some good defense leading to easy bucket run-outs. Then as frequently happens, but not to us too much, the comeback halted after we climbed to within 1. Lots of energy spent to get it close, A lot of self satisfaction ‘we did it’ and we just let up very quickly and got blitzed shockingly fast.
The part of the game I didn’t like was DaJuan. Huge supporter of the young man but he just kept shooting. SoloBall was introduced in the game thread early on and I felt DaJuan was playing Solo Ball. I’m surprised Bill didn’t try to reign him in. Maybe that’s part of Selfs lesson he was trying to teach.
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I think Juan was very frustrated in this game. I’m certain of that.
He’s used to there being more options. Hunter in the paint? Didn’t happen. KJ pick and roll? Nope. Juan drive and feed? They did a good job of clogging the passing lanes.
So Harris would make the drive, do what he always does (commit in the air to doing something but not sure until the last second), then not having a good option except shoot it. They dared him to shoot it. He did! His cold shooting was because he was outside of his process for getting to that point of hitting a shot.
McDermott is a great coach. I’ve always respected this guy.
Still… there are all kinds of lessons to be learned from this game. I’m glad we lost. Best we face some of these things now on xmas break instead of later, like in Feb/March!
Now that’s over… we better thrash Mizzou! Send those hillbillies back to the woods in shame! lol I don’t even think there are hills in Mizz… lol
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I’m not sure what to think about the Mizzou game. BPI has it as a high rated match up with KU by 5 points. They have played a pretty weak, understatement, schedule but seem able to score at a high rate. It will be interesting to see how the team responds and how we respond too. Is the downright hatred still felt? Probably not but there would be another court storming if things don’t go as I want them too.
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The hatred is still there in the fan bases… probably not the players unless there are a few local players on the team. Maybe Zeke feels it. Juan is from mizzery. I’m not sure how he feels about it. But fans like to inject the emotions into the players. Guess we will see. You can bet the crowd will be going nuts.
I’m not feeling optimistic… but I do think Self will sell the importance to the team!
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@wissox Juan is the most unselfish guy on the team. He knew they’d play him that way, coach told him to take those open shots. Juan said he couldn’t get them to fall.
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@Crimsonorblue22 none of his shots were “bad” but we don’t want or need him taking 20 plus shots if we are being successful. Credit to them for playing solid defense.
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Pop Isaacs out for the year, having surgery on his hip. Fried us (AJ Storr) on a bad hip unreal.
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Aj out too?
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Sorry to hear he’s hurt. Having his perfect game and going down would be frustrating. Any momentum we found he squelched over and over and he was a freak that day.
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It’s December, Self isn’t emptying the bag of tricks this early in the season. This is also a team we’ll have the potential to see again in March so why show everything? Also being shorthanded with the guy out being the key piece to countering Creighton’s defense because of his shooting meant Self likely knew this would be a long game.
Also, did the Creighton game really expose anything that Self didn’t already know about the weaknesses of his team?
Losing sucks and brings out the worst of this fanbase, but there wasn’t anything shocking going on here. KU played a good team short handed that exploited a known weakness. Self isn’t going to show what his counter to that strategy is in December, especially without Griffen available.
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He must’ve been jacked up if it was that bad. Just read it on espn. Guess it was bad last yr.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Cretins From Craytin Game Thread:
Aj out too?
I’m saying AJ played horrible defense against Creighton, in particular Isaacs. Hand down man down.
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@BShark I think Zeke could do a better job too! Not switching or to much watching.
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@BShark Go rewatch the tape and let me know how often Juan was on Isaac’s
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Caught standing too much not in defensive stance as well. His motor is way too hot and cold for my liking on defense. But we all knew this when he signed what we were getting…
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I’m bad luck now, we need a @wissox game thread for Missouri
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@BShark he’s probably at church, try again! Get it off your back!
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@Crimsonorblue22 oof. You are bad luck too
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@BShark @Crimsonorblue22 LOL, Was thinking about that! I was in Minnesota meeting my new granddaughter. Wanted to listen to the Jayhawker podcast on way home about Grimes leaving and they’d already put up a podcast about the game. Spared me from having to watch it when I got home which was just now. I’ll see if I can get us back on track next game!
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@wissox congrats, we both have new gdaughters!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Oh congrats too! Mine was born Thursday.
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Nov 19, due dec 5
