Chiefs signings
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The Chiefs have been linked with RB Josh Jacobs of the Raiders – if he doesn’t sign his $10M franchise tag deal and if the Raiders rescind the tag and if he decides to leave. ha. complicated. I don’t want no stinking Raiders!
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/08/chiefs-broncos-interested-in-josh-jacobs
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Interesting although I cannot envision this from happening unless Pacheo’s injury is still an issue.
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I would be very happy to add Jacobs to the rotation of backs. Imagine facing 30 carries a game from Pacheco and Jacobs. What a punishing duo.
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I am as well but at the right price.
Due to change in NFL’s philosophy on offense putting much greater emphasis on passing game, value of RBs is going down and teams are not committing $$ on RBs.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Chiefs signings:
I would be very happy to add Jacobs to the rotation of backs. Imagine facing 30 carries a game from Pacheco and Jacobs. What a punishing duo.
I too would love to have Jacobs in the fold, but think he will be cost prohibitive. 30 runs from Pacheco and Jacobs would have the defense softened up and is a winning formula, but what I want to see are the 45 pass attempts by Patrick!
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Yea, i dunno how the Chiefs could afford/convince him to sign way below market rate – whatever that is these days.
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Interesting article by an ex-agent who repped a couple of hold-out players previously. Analyzes several current players holding out, including Jones. Gets deep into the weeds on penalties that vary based on where players are in their careers, and discusses factors affecting how public comments can help or sabotage negotiations. (Note: The author refers to both our player and the Cowboys’ owner as “Jones”. Any references to “Jones” in the context of their OL Martin holding out are to Jerry.)
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Jones wants $30M, Williams signed for $24M. Chiefs cannot afford $30M considering they have several upcoming contracts to negotiate.
I hope they come to terms sooner rather than later, get it done for $26M.
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Chiefs 1st team Offense and Defense looked bad today.
Jones must be smiling watching D without him.
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@AsadZ he’s being selfish.
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Jones tweeted that he may not be back until week 8.
Is he serious or just kidding with fans.
I appreciate his efforts in maximizing his earning, but I do not like such social media posts, put bad taste in the mouth.
He is really needed for Chiefs to contend for Super Bowl but at what point will the brass say enough and move on?
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I like Jones so much, hope they work it out and it benefits our Chiefs!
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If he holds out each game cost him close to 2.2million. 1 million this year and 1.2million off the franchise tag for next year.
I’m not sure what he wants, but if reports are right he’s asking for around 30mil per year and the Chiefs are at 27. If he misses out on 10million in salary this year he would barely recoup it on a 4 year 120 million deal - he would end up 1/2 million dollars a year ahead at 27.5 million per year average. Silly
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He tweeted something in that he can afford losing 8 game salary. LoL.
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I absolutely understand that I stand on this island alone. Most others don’t agree.
Get your butt to work, Chris Jones. You’re under contract and now you’re hurting the team.
One of these days I’d LOVE to see the team just tear up a contract and say see ya, chump. You don’t show up for work under contract, you’re fired!
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@rockchalkjayhawk I’m with you in wanting Chris back in camp. I myself would handle things differently, but holding out has been collectively bargained and is one of the players few tools for leverage.
I also kinda want him to hold out for about 5-6 games so his game day salary goes back to the cap pool and they can sign Dunlap or other Dline help, while simultaneously lowering his franchise tag number. Missing games kinda helps the chiefs in a twisted up way - as long as he comes back, performs, and doesn’t get hurt.
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@dylans said in Chiefs signings:
@rockchalkjayhawk I’m with you in wanting Chris back in camp. I myself would handle things differently, but holding out has been collectively bargained and is one of the players few tools for leverage.
I also kinda want him to hold out for about 5-6 games so his game day salary goes back to the cap pool and they can sign Dunlap or other Dline help, while simultaneously lowering his franchise tag number. Missing games kinda helps the chiefs in a twisted up way - as long as he comes back, performs, and doesn’t get hurt.
No kidding @dylans ? that’s really been collectively bargained? I didn’t realize. still hate it! ha.
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Fact remains that Jones is needed for Chiefs to contend.
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Hmm, looking at the WR corps for the Chiefs. Think we need to sign a real, experienced receiver? Not that it matters, but i’d guess a non Chiefs fan couldn’t even recognize any of these names. Gotta be somebody out there worth signing.
Wide receivers (7): Kadarius Toney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Skyy Moore, Justin Watson, Richie James, Rashee Rice, Justyn Ross
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I like what they have. Likely losing smith marsette hurts. But don’t forget about the true #1 target Kelce.
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If Ross stays healthy, watch out for him.
I also want to see Smith Marsette in the roster.
Can Veatch pull a trade or two to get DL help by shipping DBs as Chiefs have solid depth.
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@dylans said in Chiefs signings:
I like what they have. Likely losing smith marsette hurts. But don’t forget about the true #1 target Kelce.
Kelce. sure. i get it. He’s the top target. I’m sure there will be some guys let go who would come in handy.
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Just to be totally clear…the Chiefs are in WIN NOW mode. So, help Mahomes out!
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@rockchalkjayhawk I agree but without adequate D Chiefs are not winning anything. We have seen the movie in the past, they just cannot score on every drive, sooner or later you have to stop other teams from scoring.
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@AsadZ said in Chiefs signings:
@rockchalkjayhawk I agree but without adequate D Chiefs are not winning anything. We have seen the movie in the past, they just cannot score on every drive, sooner or later you have to stop other teams from scoring.
The D is an entirely different matter…ha. Agreed.
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From ESPN:
The Carolina Panthers acquired wide receiver Ihmir Smith-Marsette from the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for a swap of conditional 2025 seventh-rounders, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Smith-Marsette was originally drafted in the fifth-round in 2021 by the Minnesota Vikings. He has six career regular-season catches.
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Bitter sweet moment.
I’d have liked to see him make the roster but it would have been difficult unless Chiefs carry 8 WRs.
At least Chiefs got a draft pick.
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Chiefs WR room is deep when you consider they can get anything for their 8th best guy.
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I didn’t realize ISM had a total of 6 catches since being drafted in '21. Lots of talent showed this preseason, but against 2nd/3rd string guys. Seems awfully fast, but Ross is likely faster. Will track him. Not sure Panthers are great for anyone…
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To get something for a practice squad player is pretty cool. God job Veach. ISM would’ve made several of the chiefs rosters the last 6 years - wr room is deep with mid talent. No 1s, no real scrubs either.
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@dylans Yes I concur. I mean MVS is WR1. With Mahomes and Reid I think this is the right strategy, several talented WRs except for 1 or 2 elite. They can spread ball around.
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According to Adam Schefter, the Chiefs will send a sixth-round draft choice to Las Vegas for DT Neil Farrell who was drafted last year in 4th round.
This appears to be a good move to provide much needed boost to DL.
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He is a big dude, 6’4" 330 lbs.
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Buechele has been cut, I was hoping he would be kept. He will surely be picked by another team. I think Chiefs are serious about Wentz as longer term QB back up.
Also, Prince, who was highly touted during camp, has been cut.
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Shane getting cut is a surprise, but he looked bad against the 1st string last preseason game (chiefs 2 vs browns 1s). Wentz must be gaining traction - with the new rule allowing a 3rd inactive qb to enter the game if the first two get hurt, I would be surprised if most teams don’t roster three qbs
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Heard that both Prince and Perine are cut.
I was thinking Perine will make it, he looked in preseason games, better than CEH.
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@AsadZ Wise got cut too.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah, was hoping he can prove his worth and stay. He may come back on practice squad
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Doh! Reading this didn’t alleviate my concerns about our WRs!
- Questions at wide receiver Apart from Travis Kelce, there seems to be a dearth of established receiving options for Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. The depth chart predominantly consists of young talents who hold the promise of maybe becoming standout players, including names like Skyy Moore, Rashee Rice, Justyn Ross, and Kadarius Toney. While these individuals undoubtedly possess serious skills, none have yet solidified their presence within the NFL. Additionally, veterans such as Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Justin Watson, and Richie James provide reliable depth, yet they don’t quite reach the tier of top-tier players. As long as Travis Kelce maintains his high-level performance, the urgency for a true number-one receiver is not significant, though his age does introduce a degree of concern. Granted, there’s a possibility that one or two of the young receivers might emerge as dependable assets, but the fact remains that no such breakthrough has occurred thus far. Should the worst-case scenario unfold, leaving Travis Kelce as the lone standout amidst a sea of uncertainties, the odds of a successful journey to and victory in Super Bowl LVIII would inevitably decrease.
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@rockchalkjayhawk This is a concern but good news is that these WRs are talented. With Andy Reid and Mahomes I am confident that they will develop and perform as season progresses.
Other point to note is that opposing teams have to account for all WRs as ball can go to anyone when Kelce is not in the play.
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Spreading the ball out is better than the Hill/kelce show was. They have to account for all of the receivers equally. No world beaters, but lots of solid players.
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@dylans I agree I think you look at the losses to the Bengals and Bucs. They pretty said someone else is beating us besides them two. I’d rather have Kelce and 2-3 solid receivers to throw to. Sammy was good but wasnt healthy enough. Only superstar receiver I’d want in KC would be Justin Jefferson.
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Buechele to Bills.
I was hoping he gets back to practice squad or go to NFC.
Listening to Veatch I got an impression that Chiefs think they can get better reserve QB elsewhere.
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Yea, I think the Chiefs can do better than Buechele.
That’s an important roster spot. Need some experience and skill.
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Ya know, when I wrote the above, I forgot the Chiefs kept Gabbert as backup QB. So, I’da be fine with him as third string. Learning from Mahomes isn’t a bad thing!
That being said, the Chiefs have had a few years to work with him, they must not have seen a great future. His last game was pretty ugly.
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“Fellas, if ‘18’ goes down, we’re fked. And we don’t practice fked.”
- Tom Moore
Don’t sweat the backups.
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87 went down!
And just like that the Chiefs’ WR crew becomes way more important…Kelce down with a reported hyperextended knee.
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Sounds like he limped off the field - a positive sign. Early in the season and the wr are unproven, this will be a great opportunity for someone to earn Mahomes trust.
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Ugh
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Any news on how Ferrell is performing? I haven’t seen any news articles.
