In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson
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Preparing a hand written letter of thanks for John Belein.
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@BShark said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
Preparing a hand written letter of thanks for John Belein.
He’s the guy we really have to thank!
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If you told me our best lineup this year would be with him at the 5 I would have laughed you out of the building.
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Wilson is an exciting player so far. Always thought he was this good but its nice to see it in action. Would like to see more consistency on his jumper and at the FT line because he’s got a good shooting stroke. What has surprised me is his motor and willingness to fight in the paint.
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@Kcmatt7 said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
If you told me our best lineup this year would be with him at the 5 I would have laughed you out of the building.
Stark difference. That bogus 4th foul on him almost changed the outcome against UK.
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@BeddieKU23 so far, let’s see how he plays out. Hustle is everything
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2nd half was full of bogus calls. Was not a well officiated game
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It’s easy to praise players who show max hustle and effort. Jalen’s had no issues so far there and has fueled his surprisingly good start
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The guy is a player, period. As I see it, we have a roster that is filled with guys who bleed crimson and blue and who have heart and want to win while having a feel for the game, save for McCormack (not ready to give up on Enurana just yet, and haven’t seen Jossell).
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@BeddieKU23 It wasn’t a well-played game, either. I think sloppy play makes for difficult reffing.
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I can agree that it was a sloppy game. However Self got T’d for saying “are you kidding me” in response to a poorly called foul on Marcus who picked the Kentucky player clean.
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@BeddieKU23 I am not defending particular calls, only noting that sloppy play requires more intense attention and as in everything else, exhaustion can increase mistakes.
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Did not see a 16/9 average through 6 games coming. And his two best games were against stronger teams.
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Thanks John Beilein! Thank you for leaving College Basketball
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@BeddieKU23 said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
Thanks John Beilein! Thank you for leaving College Basketball
Thanks RJ Hampton as well.
Funny thing is KU could have prioritized Jalen from the start, but the staff was chasing Hurt.
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Yes RJ as well.
Funny how things work out. Hurt isn’t anywhere close to the player I thought he would be in College.
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@BeddieKU23 He probably would have been OAD here. No one keeps 5*s around like K.
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@BShark said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
Did not see a 16/9 average through 6 games coming. And his two best games were against stronger teams.
ya that’s the good thing. Thing s he is doing this against strong competition. I for one thought he would be ok, and see time BUT having said that he has even surprised me - -been really good… - but can’t slack against the lesser knowns & I actually don’t believe he will.
Oachi is the one that frustrates me , he has this vanishing act, there are times you wouldn’t even know that he is in the game/on the floor. We NEED this guy he has to step up. - He has a sweet stroke , his ball handling is weak though a turnover waiting to happen when he is handling the ball. - -Zero points last night in a big game - - we need EVEYBODY during these times - really frustrating
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@BeddieKU23 I don’t want no stinking brotherhood wannabe!
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Really good piece from CJ on Jalen. Dude is a beast. https://theathletic.com/2298725/2021/01/04/the-remarkable-transformation-of-jalen-wilson-to-rising-star-at-kansas/?source=dailyemail
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Not sure we’d have two wins without him being a transformed player
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Kind of thinking it would have been something to see Jalen play with Perry Ellis. Neither guy is an athletic freak. But Jalen’s style works so much better. He understands that he has to create scoring space. Thinking Perry could have picked up a lot from Jalen.
Something not mentioned yet… I bet Jalen has big hands! He sure plays like it.
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@drgnslayr Jalen LOOKS more athletic than perry ever did but I keep expecting him to rise up and dunk on one of those drives and it just doesn’t happen. He seems faster and to have more of a burst to blow by people where as perry would just drop em in the blender.
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I’d like to see which one can jump highest. Part of Perry’s issue was his timidness and lack of commitment to his moves. Jalen has a lot more self-confidence. He doesn’t care if he gets rejected 10 times in a row under the basket… he’ll just keep bringing it!
Jalen may be more athletic… he definitely helped himself to better condition with his one year off. I just don’t see that as being the real factor here as much as his personality to scrap like hell!
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@drgnslayr I agree the mentalities are totally different. Perry was a perfectionist where as Jalen plays as free as any player we’ve had.
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Sounds like the view from the staff is that he has been scouted. Obviously he needs to improve and adjust.
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@BShark There is definitely a wall here.
I think it is sort of a culmination of things.
First - Bill has gone back to making sure Mitch or Dave are in the game at the 5 for a full 40 minutes. Which suuuuucks. But that also means Wilson is being guarded by a better matchup AND he isn’t able to drive without the C helping off of Mitch/Dave to block his shot. So instead of passing out of it, he is going for the high off the backboard layup and he hasn’t adjusted. Bill killed the five guard, but I’m not sure he realized the effect it may have on Jalen.
Second - he is not getting to the line. He is throwing up wild layups instead of looking for contact. He’s only taken 3 free throws the last 103 minutes he’s been on the floor. He took 20 free throws the 100 minutes prior to that resulting in nearly 1/3 of his points during that stretch. And on the season about 20% of his points have come from the line. He needs to find a way to get to the charity stripe.
Third - if he isn’t making threes (and it really looks like the scouting report says to leave him open) then all he can do is drive to his right and to the right side of the basket. It really is an easy scout. So the staff isn’t wrong there…
At this point you have to decide if it is fixable this season or not. Of course if he was hitting threes we probably wouldn’t even be saying anything. If he can finish out the rest of the season shooting .400 from 3, that changes everything for him. But currently he is frustrated and literally looked like he may have never played basketball before at times last night. The airball floater was the boiling point last night. So if he can’t get over this slump, maybe it is time to play someone else 20 mpg instead of Jalen. Maybe Jalen should be taken off the starting rotation. I don’t know what the answer is. I just hope his confidence isn’t completely shook because he could get hot and maybe help this team to a sweet 16.
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Wilson and Braun, come off the bench and provide a spark if possible. Starting isn’t working for them. It’s time for Self to buckle down on non-performers. That’s how he got Newman’s magical March…
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Jalen can’t hit his 3 either. He’s so consumed w/his O he’s lost his other assets, mostly rebounding, put backs.
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@Kcmatt7 body language looked bad. Self knows, he’ll help him. Howard’s job too
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Jalen, 32% from 3 in conference play.
Tyon- 0-9
Tristan- 2-9
Jalen- 12-37
Marcus- 6-18
Christian- 16-45
Ochai- 26-67
Besides Ochai, nobody can shoot, consistently
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@BeddieKU23 jalens last 3 games?
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2-8 from 3.
5.6 ppg, 3 reb, 35% fg, 25% 3pt fg, 2 TO’s,
His body language out there tells a story we don’t like to see.
Throw in Christian too since he has the same issues going on.
Since Jan 1st
7ppg, 4 reb, 36% fg, 33% 3 pt fg,
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I think I’d start TGF at the 4 tomorrow. Seems like he’s earned it. TN can’t throw it in the ocean, so his lack of shooting won’t be as big an issue.
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I’m guessing Braun doesn’t have a confidence problem, but Wilson looks broke.
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@BeddieKU23 said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
Jalen, 32% from 3 in conference play. Tyon- 0-9 Tristan- 2-9 Jalen- 12-37 Marcus- 6-18 Christian- 16-45 Ochai- 26-67 Besides Ochai, nobody can shoot, consistently
David McCormack: 1-1 = 100%; Clearly he needs to shoot more threes.
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He said yellow light
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One thing that I do know? Someone on this team needs to start scoring.
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Jalen Wilson: Point Forward
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Really Glad to see Jalen come out of his slump a player we need for sure. - - 4th straight game with a Double Double . - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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His aggressiveness on the glass is a good indicator for him. This last stretch has been great with how he’s scored, but I’ve loved how much he has helped to rebound.
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I don’t think we’re going to have JW for four years, three at best but he will probably leave after next season.
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Well done Jalen my man , Jalen got named Big 12 New Comer of the week for his outings - -Hell Ya - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I think a combine could keep him around longer then we think. Athletically he won’t go higher then 2nd round. He’s going to have to become super skilled and consistent from the perimeter to even have a chance. But as a freshman hes making a huge impact and that usually bodes well for their future
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@BeddieKU23 said in In this thread we Stan Jalen Wilson:
I think a combine could keep him around longer then we think. Athletically he won’t go higher then 2nd round. He’s going to have to become super skilled and consistent from the perimeter to even have a chance. But as a freshman hes making a huge impact and that usually bodes well for their future
you know and you might of just kin of hinted at it , I’m not really sure Jalen is a Pro. - -Might fall in that area where like a tweener, can be a very solid College player but just not quite enough for pro. not really sure if he IS athletic enough , don’t get me wrong you know not even really sure if he is that great vertically/hops , but just a kid that has a nose for the ball on rebounds. Have we actually see him REALLY get up for rebounds or just ehhh, Just the right place right time, a someone who can work and get good position. His J like you say I think even to have a shot needs more consistency in the pro - really like Jalen at the College level but got reservations on a Pro level. - -A Lot of kids fall in this area Really good College but just not quite good enough to be drafted
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Not to bag on Jalen but that turnover in OT certainly cost KU a chance to win. You could see he was upset with himself afterword’s.
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Rough beat, but still one of our best players.
