Emporia State EXI
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@wissox I think its a 7 day free trial on espn plus if that means anything.
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@Red-Rooster DUDE! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU!
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BShark said:
Not sure what to make of Dok struggling big time against ESU.
Wouldn’t worry about it yet.
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With all the line-up tinkering it can be hard to get a flow, but you can see where this team might struggle offensively from time to time. Lots of line-ups in this game you will never see in a real game though so yeah.
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@Red.Rooster Hell yeah! Over or under on a 4 loss team this year?
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Also worth noting, Vick and Dok are used to 4 out 1 in, this is quite a different style so they have to adjust. Growing pains.
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I wish I could get the midwest ads for all my tv viewing. They’re calm, no flashing images or annoying as hell songs.
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It almost feels like Lawson needs another big like him to play with, someone mobile that can pop out when Lawson goes inside. Do you guys think Doke and Lawson can play together?
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We got guys who can pass. This O gets going by B12 play.
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Im definitely gushing over Grimes already.
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Grimes body control evident.
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Steroids are a helluva drug. Yeesh Hudy. (They said she told her players they werent tough enough in the weight room, so she demo’d bench press, ripped her shoulder muscle, and kept going>
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I expected better post scoring, but perhaps Bill has changed to a more modern offensive identity. No player appears to be scared to shoot the 3 besides Doke.
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approxinfinity said:
It almost feels like Lawson needs another big like him to play with, someone mobile that can pop out when Lawson goes inside. Do you guys think Doke and Lawson can play together?
Lawson + Lawson is probably our best post pairing.
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approxinfinity said:
It almost feels like Lawson needs another big like him to play with, someone mobile that can pop out when Lawson goes inside. Do you guys think Doke and Lawson can play together?
Just wait.
We have a ton of spacing issues right now with the guards and ESU is packing in the post and doubling hard (what else can they do to even TRY to win?). The spacing issues are leaving us with almost no outlet across the court. You’ve seen Dedric and Doke both throw a pass cross court expecting someone there.
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Dedric has like 14 and 12 in 9 minutes. Lol.
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@BShark I would like to see more of the Lawsons together to see what that looks like. Right now, it feels like Dedric is demanding the ball and clogging up the lane on O. The talent is evident, and the alpha dog greediness could actually be refreshing, as long as the other big can work with it.
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Grimes played PF in HS for a year. That post up will be a real weapon.
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Chuck has some range.
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CHOLLIE MOOOOO
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Welcome back @Red-Rooster !
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Grimes has great vision, too bad Dave couldn’t finish.
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Big Dave ain’t seeing the floor this year.
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I really want Marcus to develop a jumpshot. No reason not to work on his form through the season. We don’t need his scoring.
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Charlie is automatic from 3.
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Geez, Charlie. So many new players to like this year.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Charlie is automatic from 3.
Helps being wide open. BUT, that may happen a lot this year as opponents pack the paint.
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@approxinfinity Garrett’s 1/2 from 3, but shoots the ball sideways, instead of shoulders square to the rim. Weird.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Big Dave ain’t seeing the floor this year.
Definitely not that ready yet. Going to see a lot of KJ at the 4 imo.
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The key with a guy like Grimes is that he’s willing to impact the game in ways other than scoring. That will help him be an even better player because he doesn’t have to score, which will help the team since there is so much offensive talent on this team already.
Moore has been excellent in this game. I have zero criticisms.
Dedric Lawson makes basketball look really easy. He’s as good as advertised.
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My notes from the 1st half: We are long. Grimes is good. Dedric is good. Dotson is fast.
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Charlie showing why he was Illinois Mr Basketball.
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Self nailed it, all the player shuffling kinda killed the rhythm.
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justanotherfan said:
Moore has been excellent in this game. I have zero criticisms.
Dedric Lawson makes basketball look really easy. He’s as good as advertised.
I am pleasantly surprised with Moore, but I want to see him against MSU.
Dedric definitely showed up. He is incredible.
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I am factoring in the opponents when I say this. Grimes looks like a Top 5 NBA PG pick. I need to see him hit the 3, but he looks like the most polished OAD we’ve had so far.
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KJ is 0-fer on threes right? None of them looked great either from what I remember.
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@BShark Yea they weren’t great, but the confidence with which he took them gave me confidence that he can probably hit them.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Yea they weren’t great, but the confidence with which he took them gave me confidence that he can probably hit them.
I hope so. He was 31% at Memphis though.
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@BShark Maybe Self can pair the bigs together. If you had to split the bigs into 2 primary pairs, what would be the best 2 pairs? The perimeter I think can be more fluid.
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@BShark He would absolutely get yanked out of a real game for the last one he took. I expect shot selection to improve and see him around 36%
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark Maybe Self can pair the bigs together. If you had to split the bigs into 2 primary pairs, what would be the best 2 pairs? The perimeter I think can be more fluid.
I’d play the Lawsons together a lot. Then put Mitch with Doke. But in general I’d try to get the Lawsons as many minutes as possible.
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KU was 6/16 from 3, 38%
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BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
@BShark Maybe Self can pair the bigs together. If you had to split the bigs into 2 primary pairs, what would be the best 2 pairs? The perimeter I think can be more fluid.
I’d play the Lawsons together a lot. Then put Mitch with Doke. But in general I’d try to get the Lawsons as many minutes as possible.
I’m good with that. Mitch hitting 3’s is critical for that to work, I think.
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stoptheflop said:
KU was 6/16 from 3, 38%
Basically only Charlie was hitting them haha. If that keeps up, he’s gotta get more tick than I was hoping for.
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approxinfinity said:
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
@BShark Maybe Self can pair the bigs together. If you had to split the bigs into 2 primary pairs, what would be the best 2 pairs? The perimeter I think can be more fluid.
I’d play the Lawsons together a lot. Then put Mitch with Doke. But in general I’d try to get the Lawsons as many minutes as possible.
I’m good with that. Mitch hitting 3’s is critical for that to work, I think.
Agree. I’d mostly want to have a Lawson out there. Like…out of the 80 post minutes something like KJ 25+, Dedric 25+, Doke 20, Mitch 10 or less.
Seems like KJ might play all over the court though, as needed.
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Only 16 first half points in the paint. ???
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Loved the defensive effort.
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Vick and Doke felt like ghosts this first half. Weird having the team being REALLY really good, and the upperclassmen looking like the guys struggling hardest to fit into the new identity.
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Btw, Bahe is doing a pretty good job on color commentary! Like, way better than the guys we have had in the past for this games.
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Little weave to high low…
