Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape
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@BShark pretty crazy reactions!
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Should get some fun ones out of Mitch this year. Kid is a very real talent that much is for sure. Issue has always been qualifying and effort. I imagine he will be pretty polarizing for the fan base.
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He’s really old for his class btw, I believe he will be 20 by the time he plays a game for KU.
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He looks so much bigger than the other players. He will have to improve on his explosiveness to pull off the same moves at next level. There will now be a bigger guy than him at the rim and just as big and quick on the perimeter.
Josh was far more athletic IMHO.
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Agree on JJ being more athletic, Josh is an athletic freak.
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This is all from a kid who has barely set foot in a weight room. Seriously, Billy has his physique with minimal help from anyone much less Hudy who will get him for one summer and season.
His perimeter skills remind of some stars of the NBA. Will he defend, will he take shots within the offense are my major questions. We will see what Self can do with him for the short time he gets
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@Fightsongwriter said in Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape:
He looks so much bigger than the other players. He will have to improve on his explosiveness to pull off the same moves at next level. There will now be a bigger guy than him at the rim and just as big and quick on the perimeter.
Josh was far more athletic IMHO.
Josh is far more athletic then most players. He’s also a guard. Preston has 2+ inches and 30-35 pounds more weight too
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@BShark He will be simply spectacular. I can’t wait to see him playing with Doke, Vick, Newman, and DG. The guy knows how to drive to the rim and finish, and hit the 3.
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Great highlights. Thanks for the video. How soon after Billy graduates will we know if he qualifies academically? I’d hate to see his eligibility drag out like it did with Diallo. I’d like to think our program is already working on the necessary background information.
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Point forward? Resurrection of the high-low?
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@dylans wonder how quickly he can pick up the offense?
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Man among boys
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It won’t be like Cheick. There isn’t any murky area like there was with Cheick. He will have either made up the needed credits (probably) or he won’t have. We know the NCAA isn’t accepting the API credits. Possible he will need some summer school.
@BeddieKU23 said in Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape:
His perimeter skills remind of some stars of the NBA. Will he defend, will he take shots within the offense are my major questions. We will see what Self can do with him for the short time he gets
Self has his work cut out for him with Preston, Newman and Cunliffe.
Oh and Josh is definitely not a fair comparison. Not too many Josh level athletes in any given class.
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@BShark Newman will be sharp. No more josh’s, one of a kind! No idea about Sam. Preston will take patience. I’m anxious to see Newman. Hope we get juiston!
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Sam lacks basketball skills. Newman and Preston are black holes that aren’t know for defense. I’m excited for Malik, clearly, given my current avatar. Also very excited for Preston, who is extremely talented. The potential for next year is through the roof, but we need Newman and Preston to “unpack their bags” like Josh did.
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@BShark Newman has
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Hope so.
But yeah I feel like there are some KU fans (not particularly on this board) that are setting themselves up for disappointment with Cunliffe. Hell of an athlete though so his potential is quite high.
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@BShark tell us more, please.
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Lacks basketball skills. He will do something amazing athletically, then he will do something completely baffling. If you are really bored at some point I recommend watching all the ASU games he played in last year. They should still all mostly be on youtube.
The expectations thing is mainly that thread on the phog. I think some people in that thread are thinking Cunliffe is going to do a lot more than he actually will next season. I’d be thrilled with him if he was the 7th man and got his PER up to like, 16.
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Cunliffe CAN become a very good player for KU, but he needs a lot of seasoning.
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@BShark PER is an odd animal sometimes. Graham’s was 17.4 last season, Svi’s PER was just 14.1, and Vick 12.7.
A 16 PER for Cunliffe would actually be amazing, I think – so thrilled is a good term.
Mason was 25.5 and JJ 24.1.
Just as info, Wiggins was 21.4 in his season, and Embiid was 28.2. Marcus Morris’ 29.3 in 2010-11 was the best I could find for a Kansas player under Self.
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@BShark I read somewhere he showed up w/a film crew his first day of practice, at asu.
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I’m not saying I’m not impressed by him but this video looks like he’s just so much bigger than everyone that he makes it look too easy! I suppose making it look easy is hard to do though
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape:
@BShark I read somewhere he showed up w/a film crew his first day of practice, at asu.
Correct.
@HighEliteMajor said in Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape:
@BShark PER is an odd animal sometimes. Graham’s was 17.4 last season, Svi’s PER was just 14.1, and Vick 12.7.
A 16 PER for Cunliffe would actually be amazing, I think – so thrilled is a good term.
Mason was 25.5 and JJ 24.1.
Just as info, Wiggins was 21.4 in his season, and Embiid was 28.2. Marcus Morris’ 29.3 in 2010-11 was the best I could find for a Kansas player under Self.
Yeah, I don’t think he will next year for the record. As advanced stats go, Cunliffe was pretty bad in general. But so was the entire ASU team really. So in part it’s all about context as well. For example Tyler Self had a better DRTG than Cunliffe, but we know Self never played meaningful minutes. Overall, I just didn’t like what I saw of Cunliffe as well. He’s intriguing though, and I am definitely interested to see how he fits with this KU team and I’d love to ultimately be proven wrong about him.
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Preston is a top 10 talent. I like how we are being guarded with this one. I think that comes from seeing the disappointment of past freshman big’s that came in with significant hype.
He’s got all the talent in the world if he puts it together under Self. He’s better then Alexander, Bragg, Diallo, any recent OAD big we’ve had not named Embiid. The first couple months if he’s here will be good and bad. If he settles in and finds his role on this team he’s got a chance to make KU one of the top-3 teams next year.
At this moment a lot is riding on him to be eligible and be a starter. Given what we know about him that’s asking a lot but again the talent is there. Self has his work cut out for him with this guy. Untapping his potential and molding him into this team is paramount
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Cunliffe had a PER of 10 in his limited time at Arizona St. The sample size definitely is small with him, freshman playing big minutes on a terrible team, inconsistent shooting games, leaves at semester. We’ll see what role he settles into once eligible.
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@BShark said in Billy Get Buckets Preston SR Mixtape:
I’m excited for Malik, clearly, given my current avatar.
What is your avatar? It looks like some random guy drinking mustard.
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It’s Malik in the picture
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The Billy Preston mixtape scouting report.
Things I like.
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He’s a big, physical guy. 6-9, 230 and, if reports are to be believed, hasn’t done much weight training. There are a lot of people out there that would do a lot of things that can’t be written here to look like that without living in the gym for 10+ years.
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He handles well… for a big guy (we will come back to this).
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His jump shot is as clean as a lot of guards. He can pull up from 20 off the bounce, and his balance/footwork are pristine.
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He has the physical skill to guard 3-5 (maybe 1-5 if he’s willing to dedicate himself on that end).
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He is “game strong.” Look at him taking contact. It just doesn’t matter. He doesn’t lose his balance or his speed. He’s similar to Josh in that respect. Absorbs the contact but doesn’t lose speed or explosiveness.
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Both his jumpshot and his footwork are improved from his junior year. He got better in observable ways. That’s a huge plus for a guy as old as he is (turns 20 this fall).
Things I don’t like.
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He seems like he’s playing at about 60% capacity most of the time. That’s a hard habit to break.
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He believes he handles the ball well, but his handle needs to be much tighter to do the things that he has done in the past in college. He will get his pocket picked with that loose dribble at the next level.
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He’s quite old for his class, which make his HS exploits much less impressive when you realize he was a year older than most seniors and 2-3 years older and more mature than most of his opponents.
Things I need to see
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Effort - He has worlds of talent, but he doesn’t always try to access that ability, particularly defensively.
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Continued improvement - because he’s so old, his development curve is further along than most (he’s more than 2 years older than Udoka and nearly the same age as Svi). He has to continue to improve on the court because the natural improvement that comes with getting older and maturing is nearly done for him.
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The good news is Self will have him play in the post some. Hopefully Self gets through to him on the effort thing.
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I look into my crystal ball and I see…
The toughening box
