Just curious what happened?
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Well like has been said, we will be fine. Just read off a site the kid that de-committed or released from Nevada, read off Rivals said Kenny Wooten, was long - - lean - - elite level leaping ability - - quickness in the lane. should be given serious consideration for being listed as a 4 star and was quoted as saying that KANSAS was the one school he definitely wants to visit - - said kind of raw but has the tools, we shall see - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 said:
I saw something from an Oregon insider that their style of play fits him better. Offensively & Defensively they like big wings who can handle the ball and he fits that role. Looks like they have sold him on what type of role he’d have there. They may lose their SG and SF to the draft after the year which would put him in line to start immediately.
Yep. Also his family built a strong relationship with Altman and the staff. Plus he likes Nike, and wanted to wear Nike gear in college. Not much to do about that really.
I will add a couple things based on opinion unlike the first paragraph which is just regurgitated facts.
When the staff got Garrett, I figured it was then a long shot to get Brown. Not that the KU staff would turn down Brown by any means, but you can only have so many big guards that are not good shooters. That may be a slight towards Garrett, who certainly isn’t nearly as bad of a shooter as Brown. It’s kind of baffling with Brown really. His form looks okay, and he’s a good ft shooter, but his shot just does not go in at a good rate. If he could shoot, he would probably be a top 3 recruit in this class because he really is that good at everything else especially for his size.
Also when I read quotes from Brown about when Self visited him and they had a “real honest conversation” I took that to be fairly negative, and that Brown heard some things he didn’t want to hear. Oregon people are saying he will be oad, so that all kind of jives together.
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It’s the story of this generation, nobody wants to be told honestly they can’t do this or that.
It’s why we have unheard of transferring all the way down to the High School level. Kids attending 3-4 HS’s just to get what they want. Andrew White is the perfect example of the new age mindset.
These top kids will find a school that will sell out to get them. Not saying Oregon did any of this but there situation from a depth chart standpoint is no different that KU’s and he still went to Oregon. Altman is a very good coach and has built Oregon up to be a national contender so in his mind I’m sure he thinks this is a win-win.
Fully agree about the impact getting Garrett was in regards to getting Brown as well. I think Garrett will be a better College player, stay longer and will have a bigger impact.
Hopefully spring recruiting will yield some impact players. November is dead again. It’s at the least, concerning that KU has struck out on its big targets and will have to try and get involved with whatever stragglers are waiting for Spring (which is not many at this point).
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There is a really good article on the Oregon 247 site about Brown’s decision, it’s behind the paywall though.
If Troy is in fact set on being oad it’s a no brainer you take Garrett every time. Garrett talks about winning, practicing hard and playing defense.
Rumours are swirling about Preston right now. Apparently he posted on snapchat that he will be announcing his decision soon. Either way it’s good I think. If he picks KU the staff feels confident they can get him eligible. If not, go all in on getting Wooten.
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@BShark making it official tomorrow
Signing Wednesday at Skyline
and Its My Birthday Wednesday 
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Billy Preston is the Thon Maker of this class. I will waste zero time on this kid when its pretty much guaranteed he’ll burn the school he signs with, just like Mudiay did to SMU and Ferguson did to Bama/Arizona. I hope we get someone who’s actually eligible.
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@BeddieKU23 said:
Billy Preston is the Thon Maker of this class. I will waste zero time on this kid when its pretty much guaranteed he’ll burn the school he signs with, just like Mudiay did to SMU and Ferguson did to Bama/Arizona. I hope we get someone who’s actually eligible.
Very good chance you are right. KU did back off of Ferguson though, so the hope is that if KU is taking him then they feel strongly it will work out. It’s far from ideal but when you put all your eggs in the Ayton basket and get punked by an Orca whale it’s really the only chance KU has at a kid of his talent level. I do like Wooten though, so it certainly would not upset me if Preston went elsewhere and KU locked up Wooten. KU has done pretty well with kids that went the extra prep year lately…
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You might have hit the nail on the head. Luckily Coach Self has pretty high standards and most players that plan to come and not perform outside the court, like Simmons, will likely not pick KU. After the Diallo eligibility fiasco, I am sure the program is a lot more careful and will not pursue a player that is at risk of not being cleared; Diallo costed KU a fair chunk of change, created a huge distraction and the benefit was minuscule, as we all know
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With Sexton going to Bama and KU not really in the Young race I’m more intrigued by next year’s back court than the front court. I think you can certainly succeed in the front court starting a SO Udoka and Lightfoot with a RSSR Coleby as the primary back-up. Not a lot of skill, but highly active. The back court though, we are looking at starting Garrett and the back-ups are complete unknowns at this time. Likely kids not even on the radar unless the staff can turn MJ Walker.
This is assuming all possible early pro candidates (Bragg, Svi, Graham, Jackson) leave.
Can the Indiana game get here already? :p
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Don’t forget that KU also has 6’-10" Evan Maxwell next year…
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If Preston had no issues I’d be playing a different tune. When we have to think of all the reasons why it might be positive to still be after him, you know its not a great situation to begin with.
I find it frustrating that our Coach, as good of a man as he is puts his efforts into recruiting these kids with red-flags. It just seems so off character for him to continually chase them and hope for the best. Most of the time its not a stretch to say the one’s with issues are probably not good fits for KU. Obviously we’ve gotten our fair share of guys with unique circumstances (Traylor, B-Mac) who came from nothing and Diallo who was picked on by a broken system. The success rate has payed off but I don’t get the sense Preston is one of those kids. He’s bounced High Schools every year mostly for no reason then being a by-product of today’s privileged. He left school in California after losing a game and rumors he was going to lose his eligibility. He then appeared at Prime Prep (which was a sham and kept him eligible) and then API (same situation) and now heads to Oak Hill in a strategic move to help his eligibility concerns.
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@BeddieKU23 said:
If Preston had no issues I’d be playing a different tune. When we have to think of all the reasons why it might be positive to still be after him, you know its not a great situation to begin with.
I find it frustrating that our Coach, as good of a man as he is puts his efforts into recruiting these kids with red-flags. It just seems so off character for him to continually chase them and hope for the best. Most of the time its not a stretch to say the one’s with issues are probably not good fits for KU. Obviously we’ve gotten our fair share of guys with unique circumstances (Traylor, B-Mac) who came from nothing and Diallo who was picked on by a broken system. The success rate has payed off but I don’t get the sense Preston is one of those kids. He’s bounced High Schools every year mostly for no reason then being a by-product of today’s privileged. He left school in California after losing a game and rumors he was going to lose his eligibility. He then appeared at Prime Prep (which was a sham and kept him eligible) and then API (same situation) and now heads to Oak Hill in a strategic move to help his eligibility concerns.
Overall, I feel you here. I think if he had no issues, he’d be going to UK or Duke tbqh. I also don’t think KU would be going after him if Ayton was on board.
I honestly don’t think Preston is even a great fit for KU. Bit of a black hole, and thinks he is a wing. Doesn’t like to get dirty down low. That said at this point Self can’t turn him down if he wants to come here though.
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Good additional points, he is a talent but is he the right talent. And the position we seem to be in, is desperation for talent. He reminds me of the Morris twins, more specifically Marcus with his inside/out ability but would he be helpful or out for himself (which seems to be a popular scouting report on him). And if all was true, eligibility nightmare, character issues why are we chasing him?
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I’d take Preston and Wooten both. Preston was sporting KU gear at late night - cool with me. And I live on Wooten St. so why not?
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Wooten seems to have seriously interest. I can see why he would, he signed with Nevada and now has one of the best teams in the land after him.
I’m not sure he’s anywhere close to an impact signing but we’ll need bodies and his video’s seems to have a good amount of athleticism that can be worked with.
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I’m hooting for Wooten!!!
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Sexton is signing tomorrow and it sounds like the coach is making a final push to change his mind. I’m not going to hold my breath, but everyone had Trump counted out last night and Ayton singed here or was it Kentucky. Guess I better check the crystal ball.
The article covers Sexton, Young, Preston, https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/signing-day-blog-five-star-young-planning-to-wait-it-out
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I’ve been saying it off and on for awhile, but KU was never the leader for any of the players committing in the fall with the exception of Ayton who surprised most people by not going with KU.
The reason why Self struggles with fall commits is because there’s usually too many question marks with the roster in the fall. The roster questions usially start to clear up in January nd February, so KU usually has a much better shot at spring signees anyway.
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@Ralph UMM ya why don’t you do that sparky, get back with us let us know what ya found out rotflmmfao, I’ll be waiting. - - - - - can hardly wait. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’ve been saying that for a few months now. I don’t think any of the top talent will sign till they know or have a better idea what Bragg and Graham are going to do. Febuary, March time frame.
As with Ayton you never know what’s going to happen. Just a little glimmer of hope for Sexton
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@Ralph thx, sparky! Jk
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I’m not worried. Bill finds ways to land talent.
We continue to increase our overall recruiting prestige (school, coach, training, lifestyle)…
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@BeddieKU23 said:
Wooten seems to have seriously interest. I can see why he would, he signed with Nevada and now has one of the best teams in the land after him.
I’m not sure he’s anywhere close to an impact signing but we’ll need bodies and his video’s seems to have a good amount of athleticism that can be worked with.
I’d love to see Self/the staff close hard on Wooten. He has said the only visit he knows he will take for sure is KU, so there is that.
As far as impact, he recently said he plans to redshirt his first year. Also it’s apparently possible that he commits and then enrolls at the semester.
@Ralph said:
Sexton is signing tomorrow and it sounds like the coach is making a final push to change his mind. I’m not going to hold my breath, but everyone had Trump counted out last night and Ayton singed here or was it Kentucky. Guess I better check the crystal ball.
It’s Bama.
@drgnslayr said:
I’m not worried. Bill finds ways to land talent.
Yep KU will be fine overall.
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Matt Scott with absolutely ground breaking information
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FollowingMatt Scott @KUTheShiver The bow tie looks pretty Bama
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@BeddieKU23 said:
Matt Scott with absolutely ground breaking information
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FollowingMatt Scott @KUTheShiver The bow tie looks pretty Bama
He made a VIP post earlier that basically said it’s done to Bama. But yeah that tweet was funny.
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What we’ve known for freaking weeks when he visited Bama again. Sometimes I just don’t get the guy
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@BeddieKU23 said:
What we’ve known for freaking weeks when he visited Bama again. Sometimes I just don’t get the guy
He was drumming up hits. Overall though, I think he’s a good guy.
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Sexton is a tough miss, fit Self’s style extremely well. Bama has been on him forever though. Same with Wake and Chaundee. Too bad KU couldn’t close in the same situation (Ayton).
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I think that is what is most frustrating about recruiting for KU.
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@BShark well, on a positive note, at least he’s not going to UK or Duke. Alabama probably won’t be much of a threat nationally next year.
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@BeddieKU23 said:
I think that is what is most frustrating about recruiting for KU.
Oh definitely. UK and Duke closed some of their heavy leans today.
@HawkChamp said:
@BShark well, on a positive note, at least he’s not going to UK or Duke. Alabama probably won’t be much of a threat nationally next year.
They should be good. We are about to find out a lot about Avery Johnson as a coach.
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Live on ESPN…#8 Gary Trent to Duke…
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
Live on ESPN…#8 Gary Trent to Duke…
Just like Richards to UK this has been done for a looooooong time.
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KU never really recruited Trent or Knox because the staff knew it was a waste of time.
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Did not say KU was recruiting him, just reporting the ESPN Recruit Special…Sexton is next…
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I was just mentioning it because early on I believe KU popped up as preliminary interest. But obviously not heavily involved of course.
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Sexton to Alabama…not much of a surprise…
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
Sexton to Alabama…not much of a surprise…
Yep. Unfortunate but no suspense at least.
Let’s hope Quade Green goes to Kentucky.
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Jerry Meyer cb picked Duval to Kansas. Also in general rumours swirling that now that KU missed on Sexton they will pursue Duval with more vigor. Buckle up fellas.
Also I believe it was mentioned before but Tilmon isn’t signing with Illinois. KU could definitely get back in there.
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