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  Two Interesting Topics
  • HighEliteMajor  

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  @JayHawkFanToo Curious as to who you would have thought was our weakest link then? Tharpe did play “brilliantly at times” last season. But he completely collapsed. He was completely unreliable and opposing teams targeted him as our weakness. You say … “There is no reason to think that over the summer he could not have corrected the issues he had last season and come back as a smarter, improved player.” He was junior going into his senior season. That is one reason. The better reason is exactly what we saw – a weak player with no grit, very limited ability to defend, very few leadership qualities, and a propensity in the latter part of the season to let us down when we needed him most. Self had to bench him repeatedly vs. EKU, as just one example. You refer to Self starting Mason. Self did that because he couldn’t get his junior point guard focused, and Tharpe thought Self didn’t like him. More evidence of lack of mental toughness – given that exactly one year earlier Self had to play the same game with Tharpe. There is actually no reason to think that this tiger would change his stripes. Don’t you think Self thought this as well? It seems painfully obvious that Self influenced this transfer/trade for Graham. Self seems to have a view on what was better for KU next season, and Tharpe wasn’t part of it. I was very much in Tharpe’s corner heading into the season. But my opinion (sadly) changed dramatically. Personally, I think it is as simple as this – Tharpe just didn’t meld with Self’s style of coaching. I say that in part based on Tharpe worrying about whether Self “liked” him last November. But also in part regarding his demeanor. Tharpe had the whipped puppy look – in contrast to multiple players who seemed to take their medicine like a man. I am curious, still – who would have been our weakest link, if not Tharpe?
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  Well his family needed the money
  • DoubleDD  

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  One of the problems with this whole thread has been assuming the examples given are normal individuals. The players on the 353UrbanVoice were selfish, sick, and stupid, with no self-control. One had 8 kids by 8 different women. There were also problems with gambling, drugs, alcoholism, greed, and a need to impress others. Those are not traits that a college education is going to correct. They are not normal people in any way. Sadly, it is reflecting our society more and more.
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  Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk To KU
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  @REHawk-That’s pretty enormous odds Re. At 100 to one for 50 cents, you might be a… nothing personal…but here’s your sign, chump…50 bucks is definitely worth a sitdown at the crap table, at least to me & my paltry lifestyle. So whatever the reasoning…Salute.
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  Why Not Deregulate D1?
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  @Wigs2 This seems the bare minimum of change needed. Thanks for saying it well.
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  Reconsidering the Player's Family Needs Money Rationale
  • jaybate 1.0  

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  I will guess that if the parent(s) has some marketable skills, he/she can be offered a position without raising red flags withe the NCAA. However, if the parent(s? has no marketable skills, it would raise all kinds of red flags id he/she is offered a position other than a minimum wage position. Some will take any position, such as Cole Aldrich father (a sheet metal worker) that worked as welder and janitor while living in Lawrence, some others prefer not to take menial jobs and just bide their time waiting for the kid’s big payday; not a good thing IMHO. Some as Angel Morris move to town, get a job and become the adopted mother for many players. She was truly a blessing for the team, particularly TRob ,who lost his mom and she was there for him.
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  NBA Rookie Ben McLemore
  • REHawk  

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  @icthawkfan316 The Maloofs no longer own the Kings. The team was sold in May, 2013 to Silicon Valley entrepreneur Vivek Ranadivé, who promptly installed a new management team; McLemore was the first player select by the new management team and as such, they have a vested interest in his success…
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  Open scholarship lottery
  • JRyman  

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  I called the Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk race but any ideas on who might be next? I heard we are looking into a 7’ transfer but I don’t have a name yet? Expect some rumblings over the next week y’all.
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  Mason=RS
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  Interesting discussion. I got my own thoughts on Connor Frankamp vs. Frank Mason…we shall all see how it plays out next season. Should be a fun year!
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  ACC 30 Second Shot Clock
  • A Former User  

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  Can’t believe no one has ripped on my entire 35 seconds of the shot clock Badgers!
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  Ping Pong Balls Drop
  • justanotherfan  

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  @JayHawkFanToo I like #7 as well. I know this is a college board, but I think that one pretty well sums up the difference between the NBA and college. @741hawk I didn’t see the lottery occur, but if you ascribe to conspiracy theories for anything that you did not (or cannot) view live then the world is just one huge spinning conspiracy.
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  Wiggins preps for nba draft
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  @bskeet Cleveland would be a good fit for Embiid and Phlly is not a bad place. Not too crazy about Milwaukee but I would not mind catching a couple of games just to check the owner’s daughter; she is pretty cute.
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  Love And Stock Prices Fill The Spring Air in Kentucky...
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  @justanotherfan Totally agree. Riley is a master at utilizing his best players, then building role players around them to fill in gaps and weaknesses.
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  Wiggins Vertical Jump...
  • JayHawkFanToo  

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  @drgnslayr That was one of my favorite movies as a kid, well done!
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  If Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk grows 4-6 more inches.
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  Just had a thought … any possibility that the SM information might have influenced AW3 to transfer? I say that because I have always thought that the timing is odd. What changed since late March? Devonte Graham signed, but Tharpe also left. That’s a push regarding AW3’s playing time. The only thing that really changed in that time period, that we know of, is SM’s recruitment.
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  Summer Vacation plans
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  Approx-got a glitch here
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  Who is Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk?
  • DoubleDD  

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  @konkeyDong - I was tied up all day yesterday. I very much appreciate the discussion. You have the last word. @REHawk wants everyone (you and me, really) back on target. Sounds good.
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  The battle for scholarships/playing time continues: the PG spot
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  @truehawk93 “Connor is a kind of a shorter version of Curry. I just wish he was around the true 6’2 or 6’3 range. He’d be nasty to handle. But his biggest weakness is his defense and feet. He’s just going to struggle with his size, feet, and lack of length. His shot and his IQ are his natural talents. He had to work hard to get his shot to be at this level. I want nothing but success for Connor.” I agree with your post… except that Conner is another Curry. Conner right now is only a catch-and-shoot shooter. He doesn’t create his own shot, his own scoring space like Curry did (and does). You are right on about him struggling with his size, feet and length. He can work hard and improve two of those categories… and that is enough to become a dominant college player. I totally expect to see a different guy next fall. I expect him to add 10 lbs of muscle between now and then. He’ll still be a small, thin guy… but when you add some strength onto a frame of a smart competitor (like Conner), he’ll make the most of his strength improvements. Conner showed noticeable improvement in his foot speed already in his freshman year. He couldn’t keep up with the game at the beginning… by the end, he was keeping up. Now… if he can learn to move ahead of the game, so he can create his own scoring space and also become a lock down defender, he’ll become one heck of a college player! The odds all work against Conner. So he’ll have to fight for everything he gets. That really isn’t a bad scenario for a tough, competitive player to be in. I’m not worried about Conner. He’s also a smart player. He’ll find a way to be productive and a way for him to inject his game into Jayhawk basketball and become a contributor.
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  Non Conference Schedule
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  @ralster I bet the competition between AWIII and Greene was pretty close. The thing was, even though that competition may have been close, the competition between those guys and Wiggins/Selden was probably not that close. There are 80 wing minutes to go around. If Wiggins is getting 30 and Selden is getting 25, and Self has always shown that he will play 2 ball handlers together at least sometimes, that means 65 of those minutes are gone already and you have two guys battling for the 15 remaining minutes. AWIII was a close second in that battle last year. He’s seen the tape on Oubre. He’s played against Selden. He’s played against Greene. He knows he wasn’t on Wiggins’ level and probably won’t be on Oubre’s. He’s also behind Selden. That means its him and Greene again for that main backup role on the wing. He knows that if he comes in 2nd again this year, he’s back to playing 5mpg, which I am sure is not how he envisioned his college career playing out. Better to take your career on to another school with two years of eligibility than to redshirt at KU, then end up transferring and be in a position like Brady Heslip where you really only have a chance to play for three seasons.
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  This and That
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  http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/all_eyes_ku/2014/may/15/andrew-wiggins-vertical-performance-goes/ Crazy!!!
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  Jaybate... This One Is For You!
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  @drgnslayr Thank you so much for posting this link to Wilt’s interview in One on One.